Thomas Hunt
Situation
History and Chronology
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June 20, 2009 2:33 PM -0700 Arizona Time
Janelaze Songcuya aka: Jane Hunt,
Laze Hunt, Janelaze Hunt, Jane Songcuya,Laze Songcuya, Laze Hunt, Jane Hunt, Janelaze Dermott,
Jane Laze Dermott
History and Chronology
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June 20, 2009 2:33 PM -0700 Arizona Time
The efforts to bring Thomas Hunt home to Yuma. Janelaze Hunt /Jane Hunt and Albert Dermott lie and decide to NOT sign the Powre of Attorney and not permit Thomas Hunt's stop-son to bring him home to Yuma, Arizona to be buried next to his parents in the Veteran's National Memorial Cemetery. Contains nasty messages from Albert Dermott and Janelaze Hunt / Jane Hunt.
In Cagayan de Oro, the Grace Songcuya, the auntie of Janelaze Hunt / Jane Hunt (maiden: Janelaze Songcuya) attacks the Expats Ladies Charities, and has them removed from the viewing of Mr. Hunt's body, by armed security guards. Auntie Grace also then abuses her power as an assistant Clerk of Court to verbally "summon" another expat to her office to question him in her attempts to find money to pay for the bil that dear, Auntie Grace, created at the funeral home, when she pretended to be Thomas Hunt's grieving widow and made funeral arrangements at the most expensive funeral home in Cagayan de Oro.
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-------- Original Message --------
Subject: Re: Urgent Need to Assist the return of Tom Hunt's Remains to Phoenix
Date: Fri, 1 May 2009 02:28:15 -0400 (EDT)
From: Laze Songcuya <lacochi2027@yahoo.com>
To: Tom Landry, Ted Hammon,Ted, Tom and anyone else it may concern,
This email contains foul language from Albert and disrepects the Honorable name of Thomas Hunt. To read the contents of this email go to the Janelaze and Albert Page, at http://zinkhome.net/janelaze.html
-------- Original Message --------
Subject: Re: Urgent Need to Assist the
return of Tom Hunt's Remains to Phoenix
Date: Thu, 30 Apr 2009 23:48:12 -0700
From: Tom Landry
To: Laze Songcuya lacochi2027@yahoo.com
Albert:
Wow, how fast things change. If you did not get involved for the right reasons, then you should not have gotten involved. The right reasons were to assist a fellow Christian and Vet in his time of need and now to return this man home to Phoenix.
It was about one hour ago that I spoke with Janelaze and she said that she agreed to follow the wishes of Ted and Tom's other family members to return his remains to Phoenix. I told her that I would call Ted and did just that. Ted is going to provide her with a Power of Attorney for her to sign and have notarized and returned to Ted. Once that happens that neither you or Janelaze will have to do anything at all in regards to Tom Hunt. I am now in the process of following up on efforts to obtain true costs to return Tom in a casket or have him cremated and have his remains returned.
I shall continue my efforts in hope that you shall realize that this is the right and honorable thing to do.
-------- Original Message --------
Subject: Re: [Expats-in-Cagayan-de-Oro] Re: Urgent Need to Assist the
return of Tom Hunt's Remains to Phoenix
Date: Fri, 1 May 2009 00:07:14 -0700 (PDT)
From: Laze Songcuya <lacochi2027@yahoo.com>
To: Expats-in-Cagayan-de-Oro@yahoogroups.com, William Britt Lewis, Tom Landry
Tom,
That's right how fast things change!
I read the emails that you and others have on zinkhome.net. So do not act like this is coming out of thin air.
Albert Dermott
-------- Original Message --------
Subject: Re: Urgent Need for Thomas Hunt
Date: Fri, 1 May 2009 02:07:39 -0500
From: C T Dunn
To: expats-in-cagayan-de-oro@yahoogroups.com
All interested parties.
I received this email yesterday. I also see that many others were Ccd the same email. I waited to see if there was any comment regarding this gentleman's generous offer. That being willing to pay the total expenses to return Mr. Hunt's body to Arizona.
It would seem Murf has solved the problem of this body return along with the travel expenses for Mrs. Hunt to accompany his remains back.
I suppose the offer to fly Mrs. Hunt to the Philippines, made early in Mr. Hunt's illness, still stands.
-------- Original Message --------
Subject: Re: Urgent Need to Assist the
return of Tom Hunt's Remains to Phoenix
Date: Fri, 1 May 2009 19:23:00 +1200
From: Gene Murphy
To: 'Tom Landry, Albert Dermott, Janelaze Songcuya
Well Albert if finally good to see where you truly stand on all of this.
Just what kind of human being are you that would say you had no feelings for another human being and could care less what happened to him.
The best I can say about you is that you are a "social misfit", the worst I can at this time think of as this time is you are a fake, a fraud, and charlatan
Tom Laundry, keep count of your total expenses and when it's all over let me know and I will do my share in seeing you alone do not burden this cost alone.
-------- Original Message --------
Subject: Re: Urgent Need to Assist the
return of Tom Hunt's Remains to Phoenix
Date: Fri, 01 May 2009 00:42:07 -0700
From: Tom Landry
To: Laze Songcuya <lacochi2027@yahoo.com>
Albert:
I have not looked at the zinkpage since it was started. So to me this is coming out of thin air. I do not recall saying anything negative other than the fact that I do not understand who Janelaze's Aunt is or why she is involved now when she didn't do anything to try to keep Tom alive. She has no right to make decisions, just like I have no right and she was way out of line in treating the ladies as she did at Tom's wake. The difference is I was trying to help keep a man alive and accommodate his wishes to return to Phoenix. Now I am trying to still accommodate those wishes and the wishes of his family.
I have put my focus on assisting a man in need and now trying to assist the family to to return their loved ones remains to the US. In my opinion this should be the focus for everyone. I really don't know what has got you upset and I will not take the time to look at the zinkpage as it doesn't matter to me.
I shall remain focused on doing what I told Janelaze and Ted that I will do. In my opinion this is all that is really important. Please do not let others comments upset you. Everyone is entitled to their own opinion and you and I know that opinions are like ass holes, everyone has one, good or bad.
If Janelaze signs the Power of Attorney then, this should be a huge relief to she and you. We will take care of things from that point on. If you have spoken to her since I spoke with her tonight and she does not want to sign a Power of Attorney, please have her confirm this and I will stop al of my efforts! Believe me, although I want to be of assistance, I would like to put this behind and put my focus on my business and my family. God knows what our intentions have been and the efforts we have made for another man and I have a very clear conscience and no problem to walk away from this situation.
Janelaze:
Please immediately advise!
-------- Original Message --------
Subject: Re: Urgent Need to Assist the
return of Tom Hunt's Remains to Phoenix
Date: Fri, 01 May 2009 01:10:49 -0700
From: Tom Landry To: Gene Murphy, C T Dunn, Elmer Zink
Gene and CT:
I want to make sure that we are on the same page and properly communicating.. I saw the Murph's e-mail last night although I read it briefly as I was on the phone with business and then calling CDO to see if I could obtain information and costs regards returning Tom Hunts body and or Ashes to Phoenix. I did not interpret this to mean that Gene "The Murph" was going to absorb the costs to return Tom's remains to the US. If this is the case then I did not read it this way.
I wish that I had the means to just pay for everything myself. I wish I had the $4,500 to escort his body back to Phoenix. However, I do not. With the reduction of production/maufacturing world wide, my business is also suffering.
I have offered to donate what funds I can, obtain a plane ticket go to CDO and take efforts off Daisy and the ladies assisting her, battle the family of Janelaze if necessary as well as the mortuary if necessary and to either escort Tom's body in a casket or take his body to Cebu for cremation and then return Tom's remains to Phoenix. Although I wish I could do more, this is all I can do.
When I spoke with Janelaze and Ted tonight I told them that the only cost information that I have is that which is on the US Embassy Website ($4,500 to return a body in a casket and $1,500 to return an urn with ashes. I have been told that cremation in Cebu only costs 30,000.00 - 35,000.00 pesos, but am trying to confirm this. Yes there would be expenses to take his body to Cebu on a ferry of airplane and then return to CDO and then back to the US. The main thing is getting the death certificate and then the other document form the embassy. However, without having legal authority there is nothing that I can do for the family. I received an e-mail from Tom' pastor that they shall donate $100.00. I sent $200.00 on Friday that is being held by my mother in law. I can donate a little more, but I was hoping to raise the balance from all involved. I sent an e-mail off group to Ron explaining the current situation and he has agreed to allow us to use the group site to raise funds.
I was shocked to see Albert's e-mails after I had spoken to Janelazr and Ted and then sent out an update. My wife and I are trying to reach people on this holiday in the PI to follow-up on the costs and Death certificate.
However, if Albert has changed Janelaze's mind and she will not sign a Power of Attorney for Ted, then there is nothing we can do.
In the event that she does sign a Power of Attorney and I can assist Ted and his family then any donations from either of you and others in the group is what we will need to cover the costs.
-------- Original Message --------
Subject: Subject: Urgent Need to Assist the return of Tom Hunt's Remains to Phoenix
Date: Fri, 01 May 2009 04:26:00 -0400
From: Elmer Zink
To: Albert Dermott <lacochi2027@yahoo.com>, Albert Dermott <adermott@g2sf.com
Albert,
I have given you the benefit of the doubt all along and believed that you did not know Janelaze was married... I have believed all along that you unwittingly found yourself in a situation you never expected... and probably would have never knowingly entered into.
But....
What in the world is this all about? What do you mean about talking behind people's backs?? What is wrong with all the communications I put up on the website??
Nothing.
I am just keeping people up to date as to what is going on, in, first, our attempts to save Tom Hunt's life, and now, two, to bring his body back, for the burial he deserves in the Veteran's National Memorial Cemetery in Phoenix.
What is wrong with you? What is wrong with bringing Thomas Hunt back to Phoenix to be buried in the Veterans National Memorial Cemetery?
What right do you have to be upset with anyone trying to help this man? You have no grounds to be upset with ANY ONE, except except yourself, and Janelaze.
Thomas Hunt was a very kind-hearted loving, soft-spoken Christian man. He brought his fiancee, Janelaze to the United States and they were married. You have been sleeping with this man's wife since May of 2007, (including while he was dying in the Philippines since January) And now you want to deny him his burial in the Veterans Cemetery in Phoenix?
Don't you two think that after you two have taken so much from this man, don't you two think you owe this man anything? .. You two do not think you owe him.... at the very least... a respectful burial in the Veterans Cemetery? You think this man deserves to be buried ALONE 8,000 miles away in a foreign country instead of the Veterans cemetery?
You talk about integrity?
You BOTH ... OWE this man!
-------- Original Message --------
Subject: Re: Urgent Need to Assist the
return of Tom Hunt's Remains to Phoenix
Date: Fri, 01 May 2009 13:02:09 -0700
From: Tom Landry
To: Janelaze Songcuya
Janelaze and all others:
Although I made numerous phone calls last night, I was unable to obtain actual quotes for the costs to return Tommy's body to the US, or to obtain a quotation for the cremations of his remains and returning those to the US. I assume that the labor day holiday was the reason why I was not able to get through to anyone. The same thing is the situation with determining if it is legal for the Polymedic General Hospital to with hold issuance of Tommy's Death Certificate because the hospital bill has not been paid and no Promissory Note has been given for repayment. However, we did receive other phone numbers to call to also follow-up.
We really hope that we will not have to wait until Monday to receive this information. My wife Alicia and I shall make the same phone calls again this evening and hopefully will be able to obtain these costs.
I have received e-mails from some of the people on this e-mail stating that they are willing to contribute to the funds necessary to return Tommy's remains back to Phoenix. At this time I really do not to be the one to receive any donations as we also do not want to be falsely accused of in the future of taking advantage of Tommy's situation or misuse of any funds donated on Tommy's behalf.
If Janelaze does sign the Power of Attorney provided by Ted Hammon allowing him legal authority, I suggest that Ted be the one to receive any and all donations. In addition, if it is myself or any other individual other than Ted that is going to CDO to take care of the return of Tommy's remains this would require legal authority to act on Ted's behalf to accommodate the desires of the family to return Tommy's body or ashes to be returned to Phoenix. I would think that this information could be contained in the Power of Attorney signed by Janelaze. However, we really need to have this confirmed in advance by Eric at the US Embassy in Manila before I or anyone is to get on a plane.
Janelaze:
Please respond to this e-mail and advise of your intentions to go forward with providing Ted Hammon with Power of Attorney and honoring the wishes of Tommy's family to return Tommy's remains to Phoenix for burial or internment at the VA Cemetery in Yuma or Phoenix Arizona.
Please also confirm that your Aunt or other family members are not proceeding with the burial of Tommy this weekend in CDO.
-------- Original Message --------
Subject: RE: Urgent Need to Assist the return of Tom Hunt's Remains to Phoenix
Date: Sat, 2 May 2009 09:24:52 +1200
From: Gene Murphy
To: Albert Dermott <adermott@g2sf.com>
Your right I did not and will do so only under certain circumstances such as I requested in my email. I am a 100% total and permanent disabled Combat Vietnam Veteran myself living on a fixed Income, but I will forestall the start of construction on my home for my asawa if certain criteria are meant followed to the letter.
It is my own personal view that Mr. Hunt was taken advantage of by his wife, her boyfriend and I am not to unsure how much her own family gained from this possibly fraud. Now that is a strong word and I could be taken to task if I am mistaken, but I don't believe in a heart but a few, and I mean a very few on here ever gave a shit what happen to Mr. Hunt, but had other financial incentives for doing the things they did.
This man whom I did not know or never met was still one of my "own" and that is something hard to grasp but by a few accepted of you on this list.
Albert your words change as quickly as the power goes off here in Bayugan, don't imply in one email that you could give a shit less what happened to Mr. Hunt and then in the next try to correct it.
There are many on here whose words are taken seriously, as for me I trust very few, but the ones I do, have my back as I have theirs.
Do I wish that someone be "punished" for this, or simply should I let it all go so it can happen next month to another proud United States of America Veteran.
We Shall Never Forget...means more to me than must...I will and have fought , taken blood and spilled enough of my own "in country", but it is not the living, neither I, Tom, or even Sergeant Mike who lays claim to being a hero of any sort, it is those 50,0000 now plus names on the Vietnam Black Granite Wall in Washington DC, now those are the real heroes of a war , in a faraway place, a long long time ago which some would like to forget.
-------- Original Message --------
Subject: Tom Hunt coming home.
Date: Fri, 1 May 2009 19:25:43 -0400
From: Keith Hillegass
To: Tom Landry, Daisy Cline
I would like to thank everyone for their efforts concerning Tom Hunt. As I have said, I did not know him, but became very concerned for his health and situation. Writing emails to the embassy, senators, and numerous yahoo philippine expat groups.
Thanks goes to Daisy and all the people in CDO for the visits, and am so sorry that you were not allowed
to stay at the wake. I would like to let you know that I will donate more funds to get this American, Veteran, remains home.
I had hoped, prayed, that the final results would have been different. When the dust clears, let me know. Again, thanks to everyone who helped, in thoughts, deeds, and prayers.
-------- Original Message --------
Subject: Albert's Lie... was Re: Urgent Need for Thomas Hunt
Date: Fri, 1 May 2009 21:05 -0400
From: Elmer Zink
To: Tom Landry, Ted Hammon, Albert Dermott
Albert,
So you LIED to me in this previous email?
You you said in the attached email that you know that Tom Hunt wanted to come home to Yuma,that he wanted to be buried in the Veteran's Cemetery with his parents, and that Ted and Tara want to bury him there...
AND most importantly,
.....that since you are a vet you are a "true believer in laying a VET to rest with other VETS and even more so if the person has family there."
But, yet you are telling Janelaze Songcuya Hunt to not sign the Power of Attorney to Ted Hammon to permit that burial of Tom Hunt in the Veteran's National Memorial Cemetery in Phoenix, AZ
-------- Original Message --------
Subject: Re: Return of Tom Hunt's Remains to Phoenix
Date: Fri, 01 May 2009 21:23:00 -0700
From: Tom Landry
To: Ted Hammon
To All:
The following is an update:
I spoke to the Director of the Cosmos Funeral Home today. He advised me that Tommy Hunt was still at their Mortuary and although it was his understanding that the family intends to burry him, but no arrangements have yet been made for the burial. We had quite a good chat and I advised him of the wishes of the Family to have Tom's body or ashes returned to Arizona. He is going to provide me with a complete cost breakdown of the expenses incurred to date. He however gave me the following initial information:
-Total Bill for first five days: 48,000 pesos (approximately $1,027.00) based on an exchange rate of 46.75 pesos to $1.00 (My wife just advised me that the exchange rate on the internet today is now 48 pesos to $1.00)
-This includes the embalming, casket and viewing in a Air Conditioned Chapel. After the first five days there is an additional cost of 500.00 pesos per day.
He shall look into the cost of returning the Body to the US, but he stated that this shall be very expensive.
He said that the following would be the costs for cremation:
-Transportation of Tommy's body to the island of Cebu and crematory: 10,000 pesos (approximately $213.00)
-Cremation Cost: 20,000 pesos (approximately $427.81)
-Additional Costs would be for an Urn and possibly other packaging for transportation to the US.
-In regards to payments to the Mortuary, he advised me that it could take weeks to channel funds through the US Embassy and then to the Mortuary and advised to expedite matter that we can arrange for payments directly to the Mortuary.
The branch manager of the mortuary stated that the US Embassy needs to be coordinated and that the family still must provide the Death Certificate from the Hospital and the Embassy shall also have to provide their
documents.
I advised his that I shall coordinate this information with the family and friends as well as the US Embassy and shall keep him appraised of decisions.
We also spoke with the CDO City Official who advised that the hospital can legally with hold issuance of the death certificate until the hospital bill is paid in full or that a deposit payment may be made along with a
Promissory Note accompanied by a property deed or auto title which values exceed the cost of the hospital bill.
It was further stated that the Cosmos Funeral Homes is one of the most expensive in CDO.
He did say that if the Aunt has connections that she may be able to circumvent the systems of obtaining the Death Certificate and have the body buried without the death certificate, but that this is not really legal.
It appears to me that even with the incurred costs of the funeral home and a cremation, that this would be less expensive than to pay $2,000 US Dollars to the Aunt of Janelaze. I understand that Oro Gardens is probably the most expensive Cemetary in CDO and the plots. I was told that the approximate cost of a plot at the Oro Gardens is about 35,000 pesos - 40,000 pesos. However, a family member stated that Oro Gardens is completely full. I really don't know. But Janelaze told me that the total cost is 2,000 US or about 93,000 pesos.
The question again is what will janelaze do? Will she go forward with what she stated to me last night on the phone and that she shall honor the last wishes of Tommy Hunt and the wishes of his relatives to return Tommy's remains to a VA Cemetary in Arizona. Or will Janelaze accommodate Albert's desire to not cooperate with the family and to ignore Tommy's wishes and the family's wishes and leave him in the Philippines.
Janelaze: Please do immediately advise of your decision.
-------- Original Message --------
Subject: Re: Albert's Lie... was Re: Urgent Need for Thomas Hunt
Date: Sat, 2 May 2009 00:32:03 -0400
From: Laze Songcuya <lacochi2027@yahoo.com>
To: Albert Dermott <intelligence_programs_consultant@yahoo.com>
Elmer,
Twist it whatever way you want, You nor your words matter to me.
I said what I said and that's it so move on and get over it.
Nobody has the time nor the need to put up with this crap coming from you, me and all of the rest of us who have been sling crap back and forth.
Tara even sent an email message earlier to knock it off so being the respectful gentleman that I am I will.
Focus on your mission and leave my name out of it.
--- On Fri, 5/1/09, Elmer Zink wrote:
Albert,
So you LIED to me in this previous email?
You you said in the attached email that you know that Tom Hunt wanted to come
home to Yuma,that he wanted to be buried in the Veteran's Cemetery with his
parents, and that Ted and Tara want to bury him there...
AND most importantly,
.....that since you are a vet you are a "true believer in laying a VET
to rest with other VETS and even more so if the person has family there."
But, yet you are telling Janelaze Songcuya Hunt to not sign the Power of
Attorney to Ted Hammon to permit that burial of Tom Hunt in the Veteran's
National Memorial Cemetery in Phoenix, AZ
-------- Original Message --------
Subject: Return of Thomas J Hunt's remains to Arizona
Date: Fri, 01 May 2009 21:52:47 -0700
From: Tom Landry
To: Thamas Ray Sorronda
Dear Mr. Thamas Sorrando:
It was a pleasure speaking with you today. On behalf of the family (son,
sisters and cousins) and friends of Thomas Hunt, we would like to thank you
for your kind care of Mr. Thomas Hunt and your cooperation with his family
to return his remains to the US (Phoenix, Arizona where Thomas lived most of
his life).
Please also do provide us with a complete breakdown of costs incurred by the
Cosmos Funeral Home as of today and all other future costs that shall be
incurred until we can make arrangements to have Mr. Hunts body or ashes
returned to the US. Please do advise of how we can make arrangements to have
his body returned to Phoenix Arizona as well as the costs associated. Please
also provide the costs breakdowns to have Mr. Hunts body transported to Cebu
and the costs of cremation. If possible, please also provide me with an
option for the types and costs of an Urn as well as any special required
packaging cost of the Urn to which Mr. Hunts remains shall be returned for
internment to a Veterans Cemetery in Arizona, US.
Please also advise us of all required documentation and how to complete such
documentation for the return of Mr. Hunt's body or ashes to the US.
We look forward to working with you to pay for the expenses incurred and
those associated with the return of Mr. Hunt's body or ashes to the US.
-------- Original Message --------
Subject: Re: Albert's Lie... was Re: Urgent Need for Thomas Hunt
Date: Fri, 01 May 2009 22:06:02 -0700
From: Tom Landry
To: Janelaze Songcuya, Albert Dermott
I realize the emotions of all and the bottom line is that we need to keep focus on taking care of the body of Thomas Hunt.
Albert:
You and Janelaze should have received my update on the situation with Tommy Hunt';s funeral costs and the other costs that I provided.
As you are responding with the e-mail of Janelaze, can either you or she provide us with an update as to if she shall follow through with what she told me last night, that she shall sign a Power of Attorney to Ted
Hammon and accommodate the wishes of Thomas Hunt to return to Arizona and the wishes of his family to return his body or ashes to Arizona and burial in the VA Cemetery.
------- Original Message --------
Subject: Re: Return of Tom Hunt's Remains to Phoenix
Date: Sat, 02 May 2009 01:02:08 -0400
From: Elmer Zink
To: Tom Landry, Ted Hammon, Tara Smith, Albert Dermott ,
Tom,
Thank you for the information and for your tireless efforts for the past 7-8 weeks in trying to save Thomas Hunt's life and now to return his body to the United States for burial next to his parents in the Veterans National Memorial Cemetery in Phoenix, Arizona
Hopefully reason and empathy will prevail and Albert Dermott and Janelaze Songcuya Hunt will permit Thomas Hunt's family to bring Thomas home to be buried in the Veterans Cemetery.
And hopefully it will be Thomas Hunt's body and casket and not an urn of his ashes that is brought back. An urn of his ashes would not be in keeping with Thomas' Baptist Christian faith.
I just don't understand how two people can be so cold as to refuse to permit Tom's family to bring him home to Arizona to be buried.
-------- Original Message --------
Subject: Re: Return of Tom Hunt's Remains to Phoenix
Date: Sat, 02 May 2009 01:07:44 -0400
From: Elmer Zink
To: Janelaze Songcuya, Albert lacochi2027@yahoo.com , Albert Dermott <intelligence_programs_consultant@yahoo.com>,
Albert,
I twist nothing...
Step up to the plate, show a some integrity, do what is right, and bring Thomas Hunt to be buried in the Veterans National Memorial Cemetery... It seems to me with all your contacts.. it should be a piece of cake..
OR, give Ted Hammon the Power of Attorney to so he can bring Thomas home to be buried next to his parents in the Veterans National Memorial Cemetery.
You already have the man's wife, why refuse to permit him burial in the Veterans Cemetary?
-------- Original Message --------
Subject: Re: Return of Tom Hunt's Remains to Phoenix
Date: Sat, 02 May 2009 01:09:44 -0400
From: Laze Songcuya <lacochi2027@yahoo.com>
To: Elmer Zink, Ted Hammon, Tom Landry
Elmer,
Janelaze did not say that she won't let the body come home. Stop spreading rumors and lies.
Albert Dermott
-------- Original Message --------
Subject: Re: Albert's Lie... was Re: Urgent Need for Thomas Hunt
Date: Sat, 02 May 2009 01:15:22 -0400
From: Laze Songcuya <lacochi2027@yahoo.com>
To: Elmer Zink
All,
Nobody is blocking his body from going to a VA cemetery the fact is that there is not enough money to do so at this time.
Why can you not realize this, enough of this get back on point and use your energy for something other than trying to annoy me.
The confusion that you add being twisting and spinning the point seems to be bothering everyone.
-------- Original Message --------
Subject: Re: Return of Tom Hunt's Remains to Phoenix
Date: Sat, 02 May 2009 01:27:23 -0400
From: Elmer Zink
To: Janelaze Songcuya <lacochi2027@yahoo.com>, Albert Dermott <intelligence_programs_consultant@yahoo.com>,
Albert,
Oh, so now I am the one lying?
Okay, where is the signed Power of Attorney for Ted Hammon? Janelaze has signed that already?
You did say last night that you would recommend that Janelaze not sign the Power of Attorney, didn't you?
Here are your words:
"I did not know Tom and could have cared less what happened to him....."
"As for signing any type of power of attorney forget about it. I will advise her against this since most of you are 2 faced bastards who talk shit behind peoples backs."
-------- Original Message --------
Subject: Re: Albert's Lie... was Re: Urgent Need for Thomas Hunt
Date: Sat, 02 May 2009 01:37:38 -0400
From: Elmer Zink
To: Janelaze Songcuya lacochi2027@yahoo.com, Albert Dermott intelligence_programs_consultant@yahoo.com,
Albert,
Yes, we know we are trying to come up with the money. But, we have commitments for the money. But, Janelaze has not signed the Power of Attorney yet. You said you would advise her against signing the Power of Attorney.
We need the Power of Attorney signed by Janelaze and given to Ted Hammon before we can obtain the money.
So, have you changed your mind and advised her to sign the Power of Attorney?
Has she signed the Power of Attorney?
It is so Clintonesque for you to accuse me of being the one doing the twisting.
-------- Original Message --------
Subject: Re: Albert's Lie... was Re: Urgent Need for Thomas Hunt
Date: Sat, 02 May 2009 01:47:33 -0400
From: Elmer Zink
To: Tom Landry, Janelaze Songcuya <lacochi2027@yahoo.com>, Albert Dermott <intelligence_programs_consultant@yahoo.com>,
Tom,
I agree, 100%. The focus should be on taking care of Thomas Hunt's body and it safe return to the United States to be buried in the Veterans National Memorial Cemetery, north of Phoenix, Arizona.
Janelaze... What say ye?
It seems that Albert has hijacked your email account and is doing all the 3rd person talking for you.. But, what do you have to say, in your own words, with you doing the typing?
We want to hear from you, Janelaze.
What are you going to do? Have you signed the Power of Attorney for Ted Hammon to bring Thomas's body home to be buried in the Veterans National Memorial Cemetery, north of Phoenix?
If you have not signed the Power of Attorney, yet, are you going to sign the Power of Attorney for Ted Hammon?
If you are going to sign the Power of Attorney, then when will you sign the Power of Attorney?
-------- Original Message --------
Subject: Thomas Hunt - time to stop?
Date: Sat, 2 May 2009 01:10:10 -0500
From: C T Dunn
To: Tom Landry, Janelaze Songcuya, Albert Dermott
Re: Albert's Lie... was Re: Urgent Need for Thomas HuntAll interested parties,
Tom, you have done all you can and better than most of us, have kept a civil voice in your emails. I have my own opinions on several individuals involved in this matter. I shall also keep them to myself. Since I do not intend to go to Hell, I will not see them in the here-after.
Nobody seems to respond to your efforts, not the Senators offices, not the VA, not the family. I know perhaps they have responded to you and you chose not to share with the group, that is fine with me.
Now, it appears the funeral home wants the ExPats, as a group, to pay their charges. The hospital won't issue a death certificate without payment or a valid note. It will be a cold day in Hell before that family does anything constructive. That's only my opinion.
Tom, I wouldn't spend too much more time in the effort to return Mr. Hunt home. I know or think that was his wish, but, the family doesn't seem to be cooperating in this, his last spoken wish. I have little to no respect of the Songcuya family or the Songcuya Hunt family considering their collective actions.
To those people, I'd say, "time to fish or cut bait."
I thought Mrs. Hunt's male friend had washed his hands of this affair, now, I see him issuing vindictive statements. I said before, I have no interest in hearing anything from the Fairfax, VA, group.
Can you imagine what Mr. Hunt may be saying from Heaven? I can, I can also see tears in his eyes, since he now knows of his wife's actions, here on earth.
Tom, I will still donate to the transport of Mr. Hunt's remails - only - if you are able to get some positive actions of those involved -soon -, in the Philippines and here. This must be done soon or not a all. If all this was over my body, I'd say, "Plant me here, my soul is gone, this body will rot".
Where in the hell are our government servants?
That is how I feel, good luck to you.
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Subject: FW: Return of Tom Hunt's Remains to Phoenix
Date: Fri, 01 May 2009 22:53:09 -0700
From: Tom Landry
To: Ted Hammon
Ted:
I suggest that you check on Saturday with the VA Cemetery (for the availability of a grave site or areas for internment) that you desire Tommy to be buried.
One of the problems that I have experienced is that many of the VA Cemeteries have been filled with no further room for grave sites or the burial of a body. This is the case in San Francisco at the Golden Gate National Cemetery where my parents are buried. When I researched where I will be buried I found that most cemeteries in California, no longer have grave sites available and only areas for internment. I did find one VA or National Cemetery in Riverside, CA with available grave sites that shall be convenient for my family.
You can check the VA website or contact the National Cemetery directly. Please let us know your findings.
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Subject: Re: FW: Return of Tom Hunt's Remains to Phoenix
Date: Sat, 02 May 2009 02:09:21 -0400
From: Elmer Zink
To: Tom Landry, Ted Hammon, Tara Smith
Tom,
The Veterans National Memorial Cemetery appears to have plenty of room. It is a large cemetery. There appears to be a very large number of veterans buried there, but it appears that there is plenty of vacancy.
Here are the entries, for Thomas Hunt's parents:
Hunt, Thomas R, b. 01/10/1916, d. 10/12/1996, US Navy, F1, Res: Phoenix, AZ, Plot: 4D 0 D148, bur. 10/21/1996
Hunt, Virginia R, b. 11/05/1926, d. 01/29/1984, US Army, PVT, Res: Phoenix, AZ, Plot: 4D 0 D148, bur. 02/02/1984
I hope there is still space in Plot 4D 0 D148 for Tommy. But, if not, their is plenty of space in the cemetary.
Being that Phoenix is pretty much a desert area, the cemetery itself does not look like the nice "Green" cemetery most of us are used to. But, people in the southwest are probably used to brown cemetaries, and it appears they have not had a shortage of takers for plots in that cemetary.
Here is the maps.live.com bird's eye view of the cemetery. http://tinyurl.com/cmw8tx
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Subject: Thomas Hunt - time to stop?
Date: Sat, 2 May 2009 01:10:10 -0500
From: C T Dunn
To: Tom Landry
All interested parties,
Tom, you have done all you can and better than most of us, have kept a civil voice in your emails. I have my own opinions on several individuals involved in this matter. I shall also keep them to myself. Since I do not intend to go to Hell, I will not see them in the here-after.
Nobody seems to respond to your efforts, not the Senators offices, not the VA, not the family. I know perhaps they have responded to you and you chose not to share with the group, that is fine with me.
Now, it appears the funeral home wants the ExPats, as a group, to pay their charges. The hospital won't issue a death certificate without payment or a valid note. It will be a cold day in Hell before that family does anything constructive. That's only my opinion.
Tom, I wouldn't spend too much more time in the effort to return Mr. Hunt home. I know or think that was his wish, but, the family doesn't seem to be cooperating in this, his last spoken wish. I have little to no respect of the Songcuya family or the Songcuya Hunt family considering their collective actions.
To those people, I'd say, "time to fish or cut bait."
I thought Mrs. Hunt's male friend had washed his hands of this aff air, now, I see him issuing vindictive statements. I said before, I have no interest in hearing anything from the Fairfax, VA, group.
Can you imagine what Mr. Hunt may be saying from Heaven? I can, I can also see tears in his eyes, since he now knows of his wife's actions, here on earth.
Tom, I will still donate to the transport of Mr. Hunt's remails - only - if you are able to get some positive actions of those involved -soon -, in the Philippines and here. This must be done soon or not a all. If all this was over my body, I'd say, "Plant me here, my soul is gone, this body will rot".
Where in the hell are our government servants?
That is how I feel, good luck to you.
-------- Original Message --------
Subject: Thomas Hunt
Date: Sat, 02 May 2009 05:00:00 -0400
From: Elmer Zink
To: Thamas Ray Sorronda
Dear mr. Sorrando,
My name is Elmer Zink. I am one of the people that has been helping Daisy Cline and Tom Landry in trying to save Mr. Hunt's life.... and now, to help his family in the United States to bring Mr. Hunt's body home to be buried in the Veterans National Memorial Cemetery, in Phoenix, Arizona, USA.
I just want to confirm to you that the person you spoke to regarding funeral arrangements in your Cosmopolitan and the burial of Mr. Hunt was not Mr. Hunt's wife. Mr. Hunt's wife, Janelaze Songcuya, is living in Fairfax, Virginia (just outside of Washington, DC) with her boyfriend, Albert Dermott. They have been together since Mr. Hunt flew to Cagayan de Oro in May 2008.
I have been keeping records of our efforts to help Mr. Hunt, since March 6th, on my website. You can read everything that has happened since then, and about Janelaze and her boyfriend on the website.
The website address is: http://zinkhome.net/tomhunt/tomhunt.html
There is 4 pages of information if you want to take the time to read it.
I do ask you to do all you can to put off the Aunt or anyone from burying Mr. Hunt in Cagayan de Oro. Please allow Mr. Hunt's family in the United States to bring him back to be buried in the Veterans cemetery in Phoenix, Arizona.
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Subject: Contributions/Donations for Thomas Hunt
Date: Sat, 02 May 2009 03:20:08 -0700
From: Tom Landry
To: Janelaze Songgcuya, Albert Dermott, Ted Hammon
Janelaze, Albert, Ted, Tara, Daisy and all others:
I tried to work with the numbers that we have today and lay them out in a manner that simplifies things and identifies total costs of everything and our options to assist.
I am laying out the costs and options to consider and then give my recommendation for everyone involved to assist one another in meeting the financial burdens associated.
However, it must be understood that these options come with a stipulation that Janelaze grants Ted Hammon Power of Attorney over Tommy from here out. This should include honoring the wishes of Ted and other family members to return Tommy's body or Ashes for burial in the VA Cemetery in Phoenix. That Ted and Tommy's other relatives shall be provided all of Tom's formal documentation and all belongings in the Philippines, as well as personal items of Tommy's (which their location is unknown at this time by the family) which have only memorable value to Ted and other family members, this should include but not be limited to Tom's personal items, family air looms, old records, pictures, nick knacks, etc... This Power of Attorney must also extend authorization to me to manage the efforts in the Philippines and returning Tommy's body or ashes back to Phoenix.
Please be opened minded. Please also excuse any typos or miscalculations as it is after 3:00AM my time and I need some sleep.
The costs that we are aware of today are as follows:
1) *Polymedic General Hospital: Expenses from 01/28/09 - 04/18/09: Unknown, estimate 250,000 pesos and approximately $5,347.60
2) *Doctor Bills; Three different doctors involved: Must determine if all doctor costs are billed combined/inclusive with the Hospital Bill, but need to validate costs from each doctor.
3) Cosmos Funeral Home:
-Total Bill for first five days: 48,000 pesos (approximately $1,027.00) based on an exchange rate of 46.75 pesos to $1.00 (My wife advised me that the exchange rate on the internet today is now 48 pesos to $1.00)
-This includes the embalming, casket and viewing in a Air Conditioned Chapel. After the first five days there is an additional cost of 500.00 pesos per day.
4) Costs to return body in casket:
-Cosmos shall look into the cost of returning the Body to the US, but he stated that this shall be very expensive. The estimated cost reflected on the US Embassy Wedsite reflects $4,500.00 as an average to return a body and casket on commercial aircraft.
5) Cost for Cremation and return the Urn with Tommy's ashes home:
Cosmos advised the following would be the costs for cremation:
-Transportation of Tommy's body to the island of Cebu and crematory: 10,000 pesos (approximately $213.00)
-Cremation Cost: 20,000 pesos (approximately $427.81)
-Additional Costs would be for an Urn and possibly other packaging for transportation to the US.
Cost Summary Estimate:
1. Hospital: Estimate 250,000 pesos and approximately $5,347.60
2. Doctors: Unknown $000,000
3. Cosmos Funeral Home:-First five days: 48,000 pesos and approximately $1,012.74
4. Costs to return body in casket: Estimated 210,375 $4,500.00
5. Costs to have body cremated and returned in an Urn: 35,000 pesos $ 616.74
Options depending upon available funds:
Option 1): Pay #1, #2, #3, #4= 543,375.00 pesos $10,860.34
Option 2): Pay #1, #2, #3, #5= 333,000.00 pesos $ 6,977.08
Option 3): Pay #3, #4= 258,375.00 pesos $ 5,512.74
Option 4): Pay #3, #5= 83,000.00 pesos $ 1,629.48
I suggest that we see how much money that we can raise in the form of pledges between now and Monday. This should narrow down our capabilities and options. We have to keep in mind that these are basic costs and these may increase in regards to the costs for the doctors and any other miscellaneous expenses for documentation, approvals, additional travel/transportation costs, etc...
It is my opinion that the majority of the contributions shall be for donations to pay for the cost of the Funeral home and to bring Tom's Body or Ashes back for burial to Phoenix. In an effort to be fair to all in a time of quarreling, I propose to accommodate Janelaze and family by having them use the balance of the 35,000 pesos remaining from Tommy's SS payment just before he died and in the possession of Linda or Aorau, to be applied towards the hospital bill. I also propose that the money Janelaze has raised in the amount of $800.00 be applied to the hospital bill. This would be approximately 72,400.00 pesos. This could be applied as a down payment with the Promissory Note to pay the balance of 177,600 pesos and deed/title of a home or vehicle to obtain the necessary Death Certificate. Janelaze should continue to try to raise funds that would also be applied to increase the down payment and reduce her long term debt.
All of the donations that we are able to raise will be used to pay for all of the Mortuary Costs and returning Tommy's Body or Ashes back to Phoenix. I suggest that we try to raise $5,512.74 to return Tommy back in a casket. If we can not collect that amount necessary to return Tommy in a casket, then we would then move to have his remains cremated and returned to Phoenix. If we raise funds in excess of that we need to have Tommy cremated and returned home, then we shall take the balance of the money donated and apply this money to the hospital bill.
Keep in mind if the dollar exchange rate remains as it is or gets stronger, then our dollars will go a little farther.
Keep in mind that these are not firm but pretty good figures to establish a plan. However, we know these are just the basis costs and the final number could easily be higher. However, I assure you that we shall account for every dollar and maintain every receipt.
Janelaze and Albert:
Please seriously consider the situation, the options and my proposed plan and solution. We are really trying to work with you and I believe that this is a very fair offer which I pray is acceptable to the two of you and everyone else involved.
I would appreciate feedback from everyone on this e-mail and would also like to ask for pledges of donations to support this plan. If you have already advise that you shall provide a donation, please reconfirm by adding your name and pledge to the list below and return this e-mail to me, Ted Hammon, Daisy Cline and Janelaze Hunt.
Pledged Donations:
1. Tom and Alicia Landry: $250.00
2. Mike,
I am praying that you shall all be agreeable to this proposal and shall pledge $50.00 or as much as you can afford.
-------- Original Message --------
Subject: Re: Contributions/Donations for Thomas Hunt
Date: Sat, 2 May 2009 18:58:46 +0800
From: Daisy Cline <daisycline@gmail.com>
To: Tom Landry , Laze Songcuya <lacochi2027@yahoo.com>, Albert Dermott <adermott@g2sf.com>, Elmer Zink
I think it would be best if we will start with Costs Summary Estimate Number 5 and we will just come up higher depending on the amount raised. I would also strongly ask from the blood family of Tommy to put exact amount on how much they could offer and his Yuma Church. I know that Janelaze Hunt will be able to produce 800. We need to forget also the 35K remaining balance from his SS money because the last time I talk to Aurea and that was the evening of Thursday, April 23, 10pm, the money left is only 23 K. pesos.
Since he survived until Sunday evening, I would like to believe that some medicines especially the antibiotic that cost 3,400 every 8 hours a day and 3,180, every 12 hours was being given to him. Without that medicines the whole night of Saturday and Sunday, he will surely not survive.
So let me start this provided there is POA from Mrs Hunt:
1. Mrs Hunt......................800 dollars
2. Tom Landry...................250
3. Hunt Family in US..........
4 His church in Yuma........
5. Friends:
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Subject: Re: Contributions/Donations for Thomas Hunt
Date: Sat, 2 May 2009 04:20:43 -0700 (PDT)
From: Mike Belter <mikebelter@yahoo.com>
To: Daisy Cline, Tom Landry, Laze Songcuya <lacochi2027@yahoo.com>, Albert Dermott <adermott@g2sf.com>
Albert and Janelaze,
I understand the POA issues you might fear but is it not possible to provided a limited POA such as when buying a house that states the person is responsible for this particular funtion and that only. It should not cause any issues and since it would be limited to the transpot and burial of Mr. Hunt I dont see how it could affect any plans you may or may not have. Just my thoughts.
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Subject: RE: Contributions/Donations for Thomas Hunt
Date: Sat, 2 May 2009 21:41:58 -0400
From: keith hillegass <khillegass@hotmail.com>
To: Tom Landry, Daisy Cline, Elmer Zink
My family would like to pledge $250, to be used for
option 3 or 4 only.
-------- Original Message --------
Subject: Re: Contributions/Donations for Thomas Hunt
Date: Sat, 02 May 2009 19:39:36 -0700
From: Tom Landry
To: Keith Hillegass
Harry, Elsita and Faith:
Thanks much for this generous pledge. I shall track the pledges and pray that Janelaze will respond and advise that she shall sign a Power of Attorney to Ted.
Just so everyone know knows, I was advised today that the total costs for the hospital bill and the doctors bills combiined is close to 500,000 pesos, but I do not have the exact figures.
If Janelaze will provide Ted with Power of Attorney and this provides me the legal right to go to CDO and represent Ted and family to take care of Tommy's remains and return him to Phoenix, we shall still need Janelaze to provide a Promissory Note with the appropriate collateral to obtain the Death Certificate unless the US Embassy can intervene and assist with obtaining the Death Certificate. If not then there is nothing else that we can do. The ball is in her court.
The current pledges are for Options 3 or 4 only:
1. Tom and Alicia Landry $250.00
2. Harry, Elsita and Faith Hillegass $250.00
3. Pastor Connell $100.00
(perhaps more)
4. Nancy and CT Dunn $300.00 (more perhaps, if the family of Mr, Hunt will repay at a future date)
5. Gene Murphy and Wife
If I have left anyone off the above list, please send me another e-mail so that I can keep everything current.
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Subject: Current Pledges of Contributions/Donations for Thomas Hunt
Date: Sat, 02 May 2009 23:28:14 -0700
From: Tom Landry
To: Elmer Zink
Elmer:
I completely understand your situation. The e-mail that I passed to Murph also explained our situation.
I got to get to bed now, but I wanted to pass this to you. This is what I have seen so far. Please discuss this with your wife and lets look at other pledges in the next 1-2 days.
Please do send out the other e-mails to the Sun and also the VA, VFW, or American Legions.
The current pledges are:
1. Tom and Alicia Landry $250.00
2. Harry, Elsita and Faith Hillegass $250.00
3. Pastor Connell $100.00
(perhaps more)
4. Nancy and CT Dunn $300.00 (more
perhaps, if the family of Mr, Hunt will repay at a future date)
5. Gene Murphy and Wife $100.00 ($100.00 next
month)
6. Elmer and Maiza Zink $100.00
Please help me track the pledges!
Thanks again and God Bless!
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Subject: Questions RE: Thomas Hunt
Date: Sun, 3 May 2009 14:45:33 +0800
From: Mike Farrell
To: CDO <expats-in-cagayan-de-oro@yahoogroups.com>
It is 2:30 Sunday afternoon, 3 May. Where is the body now? Is anyone visiting or maintaining a vigil? I heard a few days ago that a burial was scheduled in CDO for Saturday (yesterday). Friday was a holiday here, and I believe the US Embassy was closed, also Saturday and Sunday.
Is someone required to accompany a coffin on commercial flights, or is it shipped like a Fed Ex package?
Is the Health Department involved, on the shipping end and/or the receiving end?
What paperwork and coordination will be required by Customs and/or Immigration on both ends of the journey.
What type of transportation is required to and from the airports involved? From CDO to Manila, and then from Manila to ..? Is there a direct flight from Manila to the final burial destination, or will a change of planes and/or air lines be required?
Isn't there anyone in this group that has prior experience is shipping a body "home"? I've attended about a dozen funereals over my years here, and never encountered a situation where the body, or ashes left the Philippines.
-------- Original Message --------
Subject: Re: Questions RE: Thomas Hunt
Date: Sun, 03 May 2009 03:30:35 -0500
From: Elmer Zink
To: Expats-in-Cagayan-de-Oro@yahoogroups.com
QMike Farrell wrote:
>
>
> It is 2:30 Sunday afternoon, 3 May. Where is the body now? Is anyone visiting or maintaining a vigil? I heard a few days ago that
> a burial was scheduled in CDO for Saturday (yesterday). Friday was a holiday here, and I believe the US Embassy was closed, also Saturday
> and Sunday.
>
Mike,
I cannot answer all your questions, but I will answer what I can.
Mr. Hunt passed away Sunday night, April 26th, about 11pm Phil Time.
The body and casket are currently resting in an air conditioned chapel at the funeral home. They do not have a refrigerator.
The Aunt who had threatened Daisy is the one that made the funeral and burial arrangements. She chose the most expensive Funeral Home chain in the Philippines, and the most expensive cemetery for burial. The total cost, for the funeral, casket, and embalming is about $800. For burial in the cemetery there, it is an additional $1200. There is also an additional fee of 500 pesos per day for each day the casket remains in the funeral home.
The funeral home director thought he was talking to Thomas Hunt's wife when the arrangements were made. He now knows, as of yesterday, that it was Janelaze's aunt that made the arrangements.
The burial was scheduled for Saturday. A death certificate is necessary prior to burial. But, because the Aunt does not have the money to pay the $2,000 funeral home bill AND because there is no death certificate, yet, No burial took place.
The hospital will not release the death certificate because the 500,000 peso hospital bill has not been paid.
According to the Manila Embassy it will cost about $4500 to bring a body and casket back to the United States for burial. That includes the embalming of the body and sealing of the casket by the funeral home for shipping.
The funeral home will want death certificate and the previous $800 dollar incurred plus the storage fees paid before releasing the body for shipment.. But, that $800 would be included as part of the $4500 cost of shipping to the US..
For the embassy to process the shipment of the body back to the United States, they need also need the death certificate. And then also, to prove to the VA that the body is Thomas Hunt, and to prove to the SSA that he is no longer living, a death certificate is also required.
We are certain that somewhere between the embassy working with the hospital, the local legal authorities, and the Philippine law requiring quick disposition of a body, that a death certificate will be obtained even if the hospital bill is not paid. We have no intention of paying the hospital bill.
Tom Landry has volunteered his time to fly to CDO to bring the body and casket back to the Phoenix for internment at the Veterans Memorial Cemetery in Phoenix. But, to do that he needs the Power of Attorney signed by Janelaze to Ted Hammon and the money to pay the expenses of bringing the body and casket back to the United States.
Once Ted Hammon has the signed Power of Attorney from Janelaze, then the people that have already committed to sending money and hopefully additional people will send money to Ted to bring Thomas back to the United States. So far we have $1,100 committed. No one is willing to send any money until the Power of Attorney is signed.
In the meantime, Thomas Hunt, stays at the Funeral Home.
I know of someone that recently sent a their wife's father's body back to the Philippines for burial. The cost was about the same as the Embassy estimates for sending back to the United States. I believe they used Northwest or Continental..
I am guessing it would be best to use one airline all the way, but PAL does not fly the LAX to Phoenix leg. And Continental and Northwest do not fly CDO to MNL.
If we cannot raise the $4500 or so, say $5000 to bring Thomas hunt home in a casket, then we will go with our last resort, option, and go for cremation. Cremation and transport of the urn and ashes back to the US would be about $1500. We prefer not to do that, considering Thomas Hunt's devout Christian Baptist faith.
But, either way, Tom Landry has volunteered his time to bring Mr. Hunt's body or ashes back to the Phoenix.
Later today I will update the Tom Hunt pages with the all that has transpired since Friday evening. I am also working on a Memorial Page for Thomas Hunt. I am waiting for information and pictures from Ted and Janelaze for that.
-------- Original Message --------
Subject: Re: Questions RE: Thomas Hunt
Date: Sun, 03 May 2009 08:32:30 -0000
From: don2001m
To: Expats-in-Cagayan-de-Oro@yahoogroups.com
Mike,
I agree with your take earlier where you said that Daisy and everyone has done enough. They were supporting the living. The only living person they will really support now is Mrs. Hunt. She is dying to get her hands on that death certificate, but wants contributions to pay the hospital so she can get it. Quite the nerve. He will get more visitors at his grave in CDO, I am afraid. The stepson, likely can't afford to give any help, and says it doesn't really matter where Tom is buried.
Then I notice where the guy with the guilty conscience, Albert, advises his gf to back off so everyone will keep paying. Did you notice they wouldn't do anything to stop the lawsuit but only look into it. Sure, once the hospital is paid the lawsuit will continue. I would have felt more comfortable if he used words like 'we will put a stop to that nonsense', but no, he uses 'look into it' or something similar, twice, in fact. They are not living together but I guess you all see he uses her email address a lot and implies she is not there.
Then again the lawsuit may get postponed unless she gets deported, like she should be. Friend Albert wont get her back to the U.S. after that, either.
Time to bow out, I would think. She made her bed now let her lie in it.
You all did what you could, and are congratulated for it.
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Subject: Re: Thomas Hunt
Date: Sun, 3 May 2009 01:36:28 -0700 (PDT)
From: Thamas Ray Sorronda
To: Elmer Zink
Good day Mr. Zink!
By the way my complete name is Thamas Ray Sorronda. I am the branch manager of the funeral establishment where the late Mr. Hunt is currently being viewed. With regards to the information that you have given to me, i think it is more of a personal matter and we dont want to get our hands with the personal affairs of other people. But i assure you that we will act in accordance with what the American embassy here in the philippines will rule out regarding this matter.
So i would suggest Mr. Zink that you call up the American Embassy as soon as possible so that they can give a directive and we can halt whatever the people here are planning to do with the body of Mr. Hunt. Otherwise we will follow the will of the people here espcially if they can show proof that they are the legitimate people responsible for the disposal of the body of Mr. Hunt.
Hope you understand with our stand on the matter at hand. Rest assured that whatever action that we are going to make, it is with permission from the american embassy.
God Bless
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Subject: Return of Thomas Hunt's remains for Burial in a VA Cemetery in Phoenix Arizona
Date: Sun, 03 May 2009 13:16:03 -0700
From: Tom Landry
To: Elmer Zink, Thamas Sorronda, "Eilskov, Eric C (Manila Embassy)", American Citizens Services
Elmer:
Eric Eilskov at the US Embassy has been copied on e-mails advising of the Death of Thomas Hunt and where is body is presently located. However, because of the holiday on Friday, Eric will not be back in his office until Monday.
Thamas:
As I mentioned you on Saturday and Elmer advised in his e-mail to you, the wife of Thomas Hunt (Janelaze Songcuya Hunt) resides in Fairfax Virginia and has not been to CDO since December 2005. Obviously the woman (apparently the Aunt of Jane Laze) who has been making arrangements with you and committed to paying for your services for which she has no legal authority to act on the behalf of Thomas Hunt, is not the wife Janelaze Songcuya Hunt.
It is also my understanding from Janelaze Hunt that they have not been provided with the Death Certificate for Thomas Hunt as they do not have the funds necessary to pay for the nearly 500,000 pesos for Hospital and Doctor Bills. Unless, you have received a Death Certificate and Power of Attorney signed by Janelaze Songcuya Hunt and Notarized in the US and validated by the US Embassy (which is my understanding of the legal requirements), I would not think that you have any legal authority to take any actions with the remains of Thomas Hunt. I do understand that from speaking with you on the phone that this other woman represented herself as the wife of Thomas Hunt and you and your staff had no reason to doubt her. However, you are now fully aware of the situation and should not accommodate the desires of anyone without having a legally validated Power of Attorney signed by Janelaze Songcuya Hunt, notarized in the US and approved by the US Embassy.
Last week, Janelaze Songcuya Hunt again begged for our groups assistance in obtaining funds for Thomas Hunt and that her aunt had made commitments which she has no money to pay to your business or the plot at Oro Gardens. Our group did assist with raising over $2,000 US Dollars to accommodate the daily required medications of Thomas Hunt for about one month in effort to keep him alive, stabilize his conditino and honor his wishes to return to the US.
I called and spoke with Janelaze Songcuya Hunt that this past Thursday evening and she advised me that she wanted to honor the desires of her deceased husband and his family members in the US to return Mr. Hunts remains to Phoenix Arizona for burial in a VA Cemetery. She stated that she will sign a Power of Attorney to the step-son of Thomas Hunt (Mr. Ted Hammon) and this Power of Attorney shall also provide me with the legal authority to travel to Cagayan de Oro and do whatever is necessary to return Mr. Hunts body to the US or to have his remains cremated in Cebu and then returned to Ted Hammon in Phoenix Arizona. I advised Janelaze Hunt that I would contact you, the US Embassy and legal authorities in Cagayan de Oro to do whatever I can to accommodate the desires of Thomas Hunt and his family in the US. Our group is presently obtaining pledges to raise the money necessary to pay the Cosmos Funeral Home for all expenses incurred as well as all other costs necessary to return Thomas Hunt's body or ashes to the
US.
This is why I contacted you on Saturday. However, the "friend" of Janelaze Hunt (as she refers to him) (Albert Dermot) in Virginia is upset with the information/facts on the webpage for Thomas Hunt and now insisted that she (Janelaze) should not accommodate the wishes of her deceased husband and the wishes of his family.
We are still awaiting a formal response from the wife Janelaze. Please understand that our group will only raise funds to pay for the expenses incurred by the Cosmos Funeral Home (as directed by apparently the Aunt of Janelaze Songcuya Hunt or whomever the lady is responsible for the costs incurred with Cosmos Funeral Home) if Janelaze Hunt does provide the Step-Son (Ted Hammond) with Power of Attorney to return his remains to the US. If she does provide her Aunt or another relative in Cagayan de Oro with a Power of Attorney to have Thomas Hunt buried in Cagayan de Oro, then we will have no other option other than to stop all efforts on behalf of Thomas Hunt's return to Arizona and walk away from this situation.
Eric:
Perhaps you can provide us all with clarification of the legal requirements and associated documentation to bury an American Citizen in the Philippines and to also return his body or remains to the US. Your anticipated immediate response is very much appreciated. Please also advise if the American Embassy will intervene in this situation to assist with providing the necessary Death Certificate from the Polymedic General Hospital if the current hospital bill and associated doctor bill are not paid or a Promissory Note with the appropriate collateral requested for a title of a home or vehicle with or exceeding the value of the combined bills is not made by Janelaze Songcuya Hunt or her family.
Thanks much!
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Subject: FW: [Expats-in-Cagayan-de-Oro] Questions RE: Thomas Hunt
Date: Sun, 03 May 2009 11:48:15 -0700
From: Tom Landry <tomlandry@sbcglobal.net>
To: Elmer Zink, Daisy Cline, Mike Farrell, Mike Belter
Elmer:
Very good e-mail. Thanks!
Perhaps my previous e-mails were hard to understand, but my understanding is as follows:
The total cost for the funeral home is 48,000 pesos. At the current exchange rate this is at least $1,000.00 (48-1). At the average running rates of the exchange rate 46.75 1 = $1,026.73. Plus the storage fee of 500 pesos per day.
In regards to obtaining the Death Certificate, I only pray that the US Embassy will intervene. However, from a legal standpoint in the PI, I was advised that the hospital is in its legal rights to with hold issuance of a Death Certificate until the entire bill is paid or a Promissory note signed with collateral of a a property title or vehicle title with value equal to or exceeding the amount of the bill. Knowing how things work in the PI it may be possible to obtain death Certificate only if one is able to meet the right people and provide them with their desired amount to make this happen.. However, I was told that this is really illegal.
Once a Death Certificate is obtained it must be provided to the US Embassy in Manila and they must then issue their own document reflecting /confirming that the American citizen died in a foreign country. These documents are both needed to Transport the body or remains to the US and also both of these documents would need be provided to the VA and SS.
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Subject: Re: Contributions/Donations for Thomas Hunt
Date: Sun, 3 May 2009 21:34:47 -0600
From: William Britt Lewis
To: Tom Landry, Elmer Zink
All,
I truly hope I'm incorrect, but it appears the family of Thomas Hunt has not pledged any funds towards the return of Mr. Hunts remains to Arizona.
Just like Elmer, we can't afford to donate any more money at this time... but in an effort to get the family of Mr. Hunt involved, we
will dig up some cash somewhere and MATCH any donations by Mr. Hunts blood relatives or in-laws up to $100 total.
So, if they will scrape, we will scrape and so there is a potential of up to 200 more dollars.
Tom, have you sent your email request to all the previous donors? I don't see them all listed in the email you sent to me. If not, their
email addresses are posted on Elmer's web page for Mr. Hunt in various
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Subject: Power of Attorney for Ted Hammon to Bring Tommy Home
Date: Monday, May 4, 2009, 01:01:00 -0400
From: Elmer Zink
To: Janelaze Songcuya Hunt
Janelaze,
What are you doing in regards to bringing Thomas back to be buried next to his father and mother in the Veterans National Memorial Cemetery in Phoenix, Arizona?
Have you signed the Power of Attorney for Ted Hammon?
Are you going to sign the Power of Attorney for Ted Hammon?
When will you sign the Power of Attorney for Ted Hammon?
WE have money committed to bring Thomas back to Phoenix and Tom Landry will take the time to travel to CDO to bring Thomas back to Phoenix for burial. But, the only way any of that is possible is if you sign the Power of Attorney.
We you please sign the Power of Attorney to authorize Ted to handle the documents and disposition of Thomas' body to be returned to Phoenix for burial?
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Subject: Re: Return of Thomas Hunt's remains for Burial in a VA Cemetery in Phoenix Arizona
Date: Sun, 04 May 2009 13:20 +0800
From: Eilskov, Eric C (Manila Embassy)
To: Tom Landry Eilskov, Eric C (Manila Embassy)
Mr. Landry,
I am attaching our instructions on disposition of remains and death certificates. However, we are only able to discuss any decisions with the Next - of - Kin.
Sincerely,
Eric Eilskov
American Citizen Services
US Embassy Manila
(02)301-2216
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Subject: Re: Return of Thomas Hunt's remains for Burial in a VA Cemetery in Phoenix Arizona
Date: Sun, 03 May 2009 23:50:26 -0700
From: Tom Landry
To: Eilskov, Eric C (Manila Embassy)
Mr. Eilskov:
Thank you for this information. I shall provide this to both Janelaze Songcuya Hunt as well as Ted Hammon.
There are many questions being asked regarding legalities of issues associated with the death of an American citizen in the Philippines and what the US Embassy will do to assist the family.
Can you please provide responses to the following:
1) What documentation is required to bury an American citizen in the Philippines?
2) Is legal for a hospital in the Philippines to prevent the issuance of a Death Certificate without full payment of the hospital bill or a promissory note with their desired collateral?
3) What does the US Embassy do in a case where the family can not pay the hospital and doctors bill and the hospital refuses to issue a Death Certificate?
4) Will the US Embassy assist a family obtain a Death Certificate from a Hospital or local city officials if the family is unable to pay the hospital bill or provide a Promissory Note and requested collateral?
5) Will the US Embassy allow an American to be buried in the Philippines without the issuance of a Death Certificate?
6) Does the US Embassy investigate a reported death of an American Citizen in the Philippines?
7) Will the US Embassy provide notifications to any US organization, VA or Social Security in the event of a Death of an American citizen in the Philippines?
8) Does the US Embassy intend to investigate the case of Thomas Hunt and why his Social Security Payments were not being applied towards his Hospitalization or medications by the family of Janelaze Songcuya Hunt?
I do not mean to be a pain, but I have lived in the Philippines on two occasions, am married to a Filipina and intend to retire in the Philippines. As there are thousands of American citizens residing in the Philippines and hundreds part of our little Ex-Pats Group in Cagayan de Oro, I hope that you understand the need for responses to these questions.
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Subject: Re: Return of Thomas Hunt's remains for Burial in a VA Cemetery in Phoenix Arizona
Date: Mon, 04 May 2009 00:18:46 -0700
From: Tom Landry <tomlandry@sbcglobal.net>
To: Eilskov, Eric C (Manila Manila) <EilskovEC@state.gov>
Dear Eric:
I apologize, but I have a couple more very important questions.
If Janelaze Songcuya Hunt does provide Ted Hammon with a Power of Attorney that she signs and has notarized in Virginia and this said Power of Attorney states that I am provided with the right to assist the family in obtaining the remains of Thomas Hunt and returning them in one way or another to Phoenix Arizona, will I then have the legal right and support of the US Embassy to return the remains of Thomas Hunt to Phoenix?
What would be required from Janelaze Hunt to give Ted Hammon (and myself to assist Ted and other family members) the legal right to obtain his remains and return them to Arizona.
We all would really appreciate your immediate responses to these and the other questions that I have asked.
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Subject: Re: Return of Thomas Hunt's remains for Burial in a VA Cemetery in Phoenix Arizona
Date: Mon, 04 May 2009 12:38 -0700
From: Eilskov, Eric C (Manila Embassy)
To: Tom Landry
Mr. Landry,
In regards to your questions, I would like to direct both you and your Expat group to our web page which answers all these questions.
http://manila.usembassy.gov/wwwha019.html
We are unable to say how we would respond to every situation but we always work with the next of kin to take care of the remains of their loved ones in a swift and professional manner. We are also limited by the Privacy Act on what we can discuss with outside parties.
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Subject: Return of Thomas Hunt's remains for Burial in a VA Cemetery in Phoenix Arizona
Date: Mon, 04 May 2009 03:40:20 -0400
From: Elmer Zink
To: Eric C Eilskov , Ted Hammon , Tara Smith, Tom Landry
Mr. Eilskov,
In regards to the now deceased Thomas J. Hunt.
We have been trying to get a Power of Attorney signed by the (next of kin) wife, to permit the actual, caring next of kin, step-children to bring Mr. Hunt home to be buried in the Veterans National Memorial Cemetery, in Phoenix, AZ, next to his parents who are buried there.
Will you honor a Power of Attorney and discuss decisions with Ted Hammon, the step-son, should we obtain the wife's signature on the Power of Attorney, giving Mr. Hammon the authority to handle the transfer the documents and transfer of Mr. Hunt's remains back to Phoenix, AZ?
AS you know, Thomas Hunt's wife could not have cared less for Mr. Hunt, and abandoned him in the Philippines, while she went and lived with her boyfriend in Fairfax, VA. She began her relationship with that man, Albert Dermott, back in May 2007. Then as soon as Mr. Hunt traveled to Cagayan de Oro ahead of her, to wait for her, she then flew to Fairfax, VA to be with Albert Dermott.
She his social security funds from his bank account, so he did not have enough money to return home. And then when he became Ill in January, she basically, left him there to die. She did nothing for him, until others became involved in March, and then I took the situation public with my website regarding Thomas Hunt's situation and the Yuma Sun ran their article on April 11th.
Now, she could care less what happens to his body. Mr. Hunt's step-children want to bring him home to be buried next to his father and mother in the Veterans National Memorial Cemetery, in Phoenix, AZ. Janelaze Songcuya could care less what Mr. Hunt or the family want in regards to burying him in the Veterans Cemetery. She would just as well leave him buried alone in Cagayan de Oro, just as she had abandoned him there for the past year.
Mr. Hunt's step-children care about him. The wife, Janelaze Songcuya cares nothing for him.
She cheated on him from the time she arrived here. She has had a physical relationship with Albert Dermott since May 11, 2007. And has lived with Albert Dermott since May 2008 --Abandoned Mr. Hunt to the Philippines --Used Mr. Hunts SS funds which prevented him from returning home to the US -- And virtually left him to die in the Cagayan de Oro hospital until the story became public in March
and April
Is there any way that you will recognize the stepson or step children to permit them to bring Mr. Hunt's body back to the United States to be buried in the Veterans National Memorial Cemetery in Phoenix, AZ?
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Subject: Re: Return of Thomas Hunt's remains for Burial in a VA Cemetery in Phoenix Arizona
Date: Mon, 04 May 2009 01:01:21 -0700
From: Tom Landry
To: Eilskov, Eric C (Manila Embassy)
Eric:
Thank you for the response to the e-mail below.
I previously reviewed all that is on the US Embassy link that you have provided. Many in our group have also done so. I really did not see the answer to the questions asked. I do not mean to be disrespectful and am really just trying to assist a fellow American and Vet who's wishes were to return to the US.
I would think that you could answer these questions in general as these questions really apply to all Americans residing or visiting the Philippines and do not just apply to the case of Thomas Hunt.
As Daisy Cline was listed on the same Privacy Act Statement signed by Thomas Hunt, would you provide responses to specific questions from Daisy Cline?
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Subject: Re: Return of Thomas Hunt's remains for Burial in a VA Cemetery in Phoenix Arizona
Date: Mon, 04 May 2009 01:11:31 -0700
From: Tom Landry
To: Elmer Zink
Elmer:
You are quick!
You may see that Eric is only responding to me, when I CC others. He also does not seem very helpful or is being very cautious for some reason not to respond to specific questions. I really do not understand why.
However, at this point I am ready to throw in the towel.
If the Embassy and Janelaze do not respond soon, I have to walk away from this.
Perhaps if nothing else when I return to CDO I shall visit his grave, pray for him and let him know that there were numerous people who did sincerely care for him and that we are sorry that his life ended in this way.
Perhaps we can buy him a headstone that states something to the effect of the above and also mentions the Black Widow and the Songcuya family and for all to beware of them.
I don't know other than I am very frustrated.
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Subject: Well I never!! Thomas Hunt Saga to continue
Date: Mon, 4 May 2009 20:31:14 +0800 (SGT)
From: Mike of Spooks
To: Expats-in-Cagayan-de-Oro@yahoogroups.com
I have just been given a verbal summons to attend the Halls of Justice tomorrow after lunch to answer charges that Spooks has been responsible for acting as a funds collection point for the funds raising activities of the expat ladies and not passing on the said funds for the treatment of the late Thomas Hunt.
I am not sure what the visiting arrangements are for the local nick!! but just make sure u bring some spooks pizza!!
Looks like this is the aunt following through on her threats. I wonder if she knows that libel here is a criminal and not civil offense and that Janaleze who did not visit Tom on his death bed may now have to make visiting arrangements for her Aunt.!!
As for those who stepped up to offer to fund legal support to Daisy, me included. Am not begging but would appreciate if you offer would still hold good lol
Joking aside I would like to have some straight answers to the following.
1/ Did the wife of Tom send money and if so where? and how much.
The rest becomes academic.
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Subject: Re: Well I never!! Thomas Hunt Saga to continue
Date: Mon, 04 May 2009 15:41:16 -0000
From: Jil Wrinkle
To: Expats-in-Cagayan-de-Oro@yahoogroups.com
Wait a minute Mike... this isn't a joke? Crazy aunt lady is really going forward with this court case?
I was so convinced that nobody could be that stupid that I just read through your first post and figured you were repling to some joking "wouldn't it be funny if...?" thread that I had missed. Well, it just goes to prove that the levels of human idiocy know no bounds.
Wait... It's a joke, right? It's a good joke. Ha.
Jungle Jil
http://junglejil.blogspot.com
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Subject: Re: Re: Well I never!! Thomas Hunt Saga to continue
Date: Tue, 5 May 2009 00:17:49 +0800 (SGT)
From: Mike of Spooks
To: Expats-in-Cagayan-de-Oro@yahoogroups.com
Jil,
I wish it was a joke sad to say it is not
The Thomas Hunt tragedy is no joking matter.
I have an appointment at the Halls of Justice after 1pm tomorrow
Not laughing or joking but still smiling.
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Subject: Re: Well I never!! Thomas Hunt Saga to continue
Date: Mon, 04 May 2009 09:54:26 -0700
From: Tom Landry
To: Expats-in-Cagayan-de-Oro@yahoogroups.com
Mike;
Our first donation of $100.00 US was hand carried by my mother-in-law (Gregonia Salarda) to the sister Aurea Songcuya at the Polymedic General Hospital. I believe this was the first donation from the group and we never were given any accounting of how that was spent.
Although I really want to see Tom Hunt returned to Phoenix Arizona or receive a decent burial in CDO without waiting for any further delays. However, at this point I will hold off on sending donations for the burial of Thomas Hunt. I shall wait and provide this money to you for legal needs if necessary. Hell, Janelaze still asks for money from us to have Tom burried in CDO at the same time her aunt takes legal action.
I am just so tired of the non action and now actions of the Songcuya family.. They did not contribute to the hospital bill, nor the medications to keep him alive, we can not account for Tom Hunt's SS payments from the time he was admitted into the hospital in January through the April payment on the 23rd. Now that the aunt has made commitments for the Cosmos Funeral home and Oro Gardens and can not pay these expenses she is taking these ridiculous legal actions really to just extort money from those who did come to his aid.
It appears to me that perhaps this is the time to let the truth be known about Janelaze, Albert and the Songcuya family and that they be punished for their crimes.
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Subject: Re: Re: Well I never!! Thomas Hunt Saga to continue
Date: Mon, 04 May 2009 10:34:54 -0700
From: Tom Landry
To: Expats-in-Cagayan-de-Oro@yahoogroups.com
Daisy:
You are a great lady and a God send. You have always been there for him. Your actions and the groups actions speak for themselves. However, the actions of Janelaze and the Songcuya family have never lined up to what they say. Although I gave Janelaze the benefit of the doubt on two occasions, her actions demonstrated much different from what she speaks. I do not trust any member of that family.
I would think that all Cemeteries in CDO or the PI for that mater would have the same documentation requirements for burial. Why would Oro Gardens require anything less?? Isn't it also possible for a Promissory Note be given by the family of Janelzaze for the funeral home and costs for a burial plot in a cemetery? Tom does not need a 60,000 pesos plot in the nicest Cemetery in CDO when the family was not able to pay for the doctors, the hospital, his medication and the funeral home. He could be buried in a Public Cemetery.
I do not mean to be cruel at this point in time, but we have offered other alternatives with pledges and they insist to do it there way.
It appears that it is time for the legal authorities to get involved. We didn't ask for this, the Aunt did, so let the facts be known. I would think that the accuser would have to be present for this summons. If I were there in CDO I would accompany Mike and request that all members of this CDO Group accompany Mike on this summons for a show of solidarity and demand for justice, an investigation of the Songcuya family members actions and legal actions against taken against them. I shall pledge my $250.00 towards this action if it is needed rather than the funeral at this point.
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Subject: Re: Power of Attorney for Ted Hammon to Bring Tommy Home
Date: Mon, 4 May 2009 14:26:24 -0700 (PDT)
From: Laze Songcuya
To: Elmer Zink
Elmer,
You Know what Elmer i am sick and tired of you and people keep hounding me for POA. Honestly for me i will not sign that POA for Ted how could he do this he knows since from the very beggining that Tom was hospitalized Ted Knows everything coz his the first person ive been contacting for. And also if he cares for his Dad he should just gonna do something about it its not that he keep contacting u or any people which he dont know you all yet. Thomas Hunt was right sense before he told me that he dont have Family who cares to him except my FAMILY. But well all i can say to Ted only GOD KNOWS. I dont need all your help coz u just make this situation worst and worst i am sick and tired of you people bad mouth to me over and over again. Well u please all of u leave me alone please coz u dont know about between me and Thomas Hunt what we talk about.
I will not gonna give up my husband to his family or neither to all of you coz ever sense Thom was alive they did not even care coz if they care they do something ive been telling Ted sense before that i cant afford everything and i also beg him. When me and Thom talk when he was still alive he wants to be buried in Philippines and also i have a friends who can say what wasThomas Hunt where he wants to be buried so please give him some respect, I will make his wish whatever it is coz thats what i promise to thom.
Ted Hammon did not do anything so i dont need his help also i am thankful that Thomas Hunt cancel the life insurance coz honestly whos name was there supposed to be its TED HAMMOND and i told thom whatever u name on that life insurance give it to him. But i was just shock coz i did not know that he cancel that life insurance. God really has a plan for this.
And also i have a friends to prove where want Thomas Hunt to be Buried he wants to be buried in PHILIPPINES GET IT ELMER.
If u help thanks, If u dont so be it.. I will do everything i can to burry him in Philippines where he have a real family and family who cares to him very much and also Thomas Hunt dont know u all. remember on the day Ted call to the hospital Tom dont like to talk to him becoz of what u guys did to me when tom was alive in the hospital we always talking so u guys please stop houding me for nothing.
Also Elmer what i am doing its non of your buseness just dont harrass me.
The Man is Dead just give him some Respect Please!
Even the Embassy was so tired hearing of you people becoz ur not family why are u guys makes so much issue about Thomas Hunt. Thomis Happy with my Family u get it Elmer Zink.
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Subject: Re: Power of Attorney for Ted Hammon to Bring Tommy Home
Date: Mon, 04 May 2009 17:23:17 -0500
From: Elmer Zink
To: Janelaze Songcuya
Janelaze,
You would deny Thomas of the honor of being buried in the Veterans National Memorial Cemetery next to his parents who were also veterans?
You say Thomas wanted to be buried in the Philippines. I do not believe that. Not alone without you. He wanted to live in the Philippines with you. You let him believe you wanted to spend your life together with him in the Philippines. Without you at his side
in the Philippines, he wanted to come home to the United States.
Thomas wanted to come home to the United States. That is what he told Daisy Cline in the hospital. You can read that on your husband's web page on my website on the page beginning March 6th.
The people that truly loved Thomas Hunt helped him in the hospital. You left him there to die. Oh yes, you did start to help after everyone else started helping him. But, he lay in the hospital from January to March without your help. You never loved him
Janelaze. You deceived him into going to Cagayan de Oro without you, to wait for you... But that was a lie. You never planned to go to Cagayan de Oro. You first went to Albert in May 2007 and then you planned to fly to Albert again, as soon as Thomas flew to Cagayan de Oro.
Is that Love? You used to have pictures online. Two of those pictures were.. "Mah Love of Mah Life" It wasn't Thomas Hunt. It was Albert Dermott in your arms. "The Two Man in Mah Life" It was not Thomas. The two men were Albert, and Zander (a dog).
What an insult to Thomas!!!! The two men in your life is another man and a dog?!?!?!??
Now you want to insult Thomas further. by denying him the burial he deserves in the Veterans Cemetery in Phoenix.
You said you would give the Power of Attorney. And then you make that a lie by now saying you will not give the Power of Attorney.
Why would you be so cruel? Why would you deny Thomas to be buried in the Veterans cemetery? You are angry because people are angry with you because of what you have done to Thomas.... and so you turn around and spitefully, punish Thomas further by making him to be buried alone in Cagayan de Oro, instead of next to his parents in the Veterans Cemetery.
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Subject: Re:] Well I never!! Thomas Hunt Saga to continue
Date: Mon, 4 May 2009 16:17:09 -0700 (PDT)
From: Tom Keyes
To: Expats-in-Cagayan-de-Oro@yahoogroups.com
Mike -- How is the aunt possibly able to substantiate a charge that donations given to the expat ladies didn't make it to Mr. Hunt? What is her basis for the accusation? Is this just a purely contrived extortion attempt, or does she have a foundation from which to level her charge? Maybe I'm thinking about this the wrong way. Let's consult the oracle. Mike Farrell, are you there? Honestly, though, Mike, I can't believe you have to do this.
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Subject: Re: Well I never!! Thomas Hunt Saga to continue
Date: Mon, 04 May 2009 17:42:26 -0500
From: Mark Williams
To: Spooks Ghost, Tom Landry, Mike Belter, Mike Farrell, Elmer Zink, Tom Landry, Daisy Cline,
Mike & Mike,
The Aunt is one Grace L Songcuya, Clerk of the Court of the Municipal Trial Court. I am not sure what level she is now, but in 2003 shem was an Assistant Clerk of Court, being the Clerk of Court III in the office of the MTCC Clerk of Court.
Aunty Grace is known for at least one shenanigan in which she was caught, and resulted in a case that was decided against her by the Philippine Supreme Court back in 2003.
In that case, she told a subordinate clerk to docket some cases filed by a Respondent, and that she, Clerk Songcuya, was going to pay for them. A 5 weeks later the fees were still not paid. So, now in Mike's case it appears that she she Summons Mike with an undocketed Summons.
There was a case against her a number of years ago, that was decided by the Supreme Court. The Supreme Court ruled "WHEREFORE, respondent Clerk of Court III GRACE I. SONGCUYA, is found GUILTY of Conduct Prejudicial to the Best Interest of the Service, for which she is FINED Five thousand pesos (P5,000), with the STERN WARNING that the commission of a similar act will be dealt with more severely." (The I for the middle name is a typo)
You can read the case in Supreme Court Advanced Decisions Vol. 197' 2004 Ed. That Supreme Court Journal can be be found on Google Books. http://books.google.com/books?id=rmk1Rde4C_sC&pg=PA494 (7 pages with one page missing)
The case can also be found on the Supreme court website at http://sc.judiciary.gov.ph/jurisprudence/2003/sep2003/am_p_01_1510.htm
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Subject: The Thomas Hunt saga, let's move it all off-list
Date: Tue, 05 May 2009 01:49:17 -0000
From: Stephen Dodge
To: Expats-in-Cagayan-de-Oro@yahoogroups.com
Hello fellow expats,
It seems like the Thomas Hunt saga will not end even now that he has passed away. The latest chapter seems to be on the legal front with the "verbal summons" given to Spooks Ghost apparently initiated by the Songcuya family. Mike, I hope nothing came of your appearance at the Hall of Justice. However, if you feel the need for some legal advice, I have a local attorney who has done some paperwork for me in the past. His office is near the BI office on Osmena. He's quite reasonable in cost and probably won't charge you for an office visit. Let me know if you want his business card information.
As to everyone else, I would strongly suggest that we start to respond to all postings past and present off-list from now on. And I'll tell you why. Thomas Hunt is now deceased. As a group, most of us did whatever we could to keep him alive with donations for his medications, visits to the hospital, etc. The only point of discussion now is where he will be buried. And for that, I agree with many of the comments already made. His remains should be the responsibility of the families involved, either his in-laws here in CDO, or his blood relatives back in the U.S. Correct me if I am wrong, but I have yet to read of any blood relative in the U.S. coming forth to offer assistance to bring his body or ashes back to America. But the Songcuya family wants him burried in P.I. That's fine with me as long as they pay for it. Right now it appears that they are short of funds to do so. That's their problem. If any of the expats want to help them with a decent burial in CDO, that's also fine with me. But I wouldn't give any more funds directly to the in-laws. Give those funds to the hospital and/or funeral home instead
By keeping our comments, suggestions, advice, etc in the group site, I believe it only gives the Songcuya family more "ammunition" to try and extort money from the expat community. The "verbal summons" given to Mike could be just the beginning, even though I believe it is nothing more than legal harrassment. But where will it end? I believe it will end if they run out of "ammunition". To achieve that, I think from now on that we correspond with each other off-list. Here's how to do it. Make up an address list of all people who have posted messages on the group site about this matter. When you have something to say, send it only to those people off-list. If the comments about Thomas Hunt dry up on the group site, the Songcuya family will hopefully forget anymore legal harrassment and concentrate on finding ways to come up with the funds to bury Mr. Hunt in P.I. Once buried, the Thomas Hunt saga will finally end.
I am sure the expats who want his body to be returned to the U.S. for burial in Phoenix have a different take on this matter. If so, give me your feedback, but PLEASE, do it OFF-LIST! Your problem appears to be your inability to get either a Power of Attorney from Janelaze or a Death Certificate from the hospital. If so, then both are impossible to get without coming up a great deal of money. Unless you are willing to foot the bill yourselves, it is probably wisest to drop the matter and let it be the problem of the CDO in-laws. In any event, lets get this entire matter OFF-LIST. Enough is enough. Let's concentrate on other matters.
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Subject: Re: Well I never!! Thomas Hunt Saga to continue
Date: Mon, 4 May 2009 18:55:37 -0700 (PDT)
From: Kevin Lynch
To: Expats-in-Cagayan-de-Oro@yahoogroups.com
The biggest fear of the liars and cheats is the truth. Several times I have seen the word "Truth" in Daisy's posts. So now the time is to take it out of type and bring it into the open. I too will be happy to make a pledge for any legal action on this matter for any of the expats. It seems as though the con of Thomas Hunt has reached it's final payment and very possibly they are trying to extend it. Just let me know how I can help. I am now in Kuwait but my heart is still in Misamis Oriental.
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Subject:Re: Thomas Hunt/My wishes for myself/Man's inhumanity to man
Date: Tue, 05 May 2009 03:43:54 -0000
From: Jerry Lynch
To: Expats-in-Cagayan-de-Oro@yahoogroups.com
I simply cannot believe the actions of the Filipino "family" of Mr. Hunt and the "care & interest" of the wannabe CIA spook in Virginia. Just so nobody ever gets into any kind of mess when I move to Dinagat (still part of Mindanao) here are my wishes. When I pass on either feed me to the pigs or the sharks. Shark feeding would enable someone to kill 2 birds with one stone & get in a fishing trip as well. My wife will be in Dinagat with me, our as yet unborn child, her son & many friends. I rather imagine she will object to feeding me to anything but I have seriously expressed that desire many times to other members of my family. Why waste my last bit of money on a funeral is my feeling.
I certainly hope SOMEONE has notified SS of his passing so that his SS gets halted. I believe that if he was married to Janaleze for less than 5 years she is not entitled to his check since she is an alien and not a citizen.
Anyone with actual knowledge about whether or not my US citizen child which will be born in November will be able to collect SS along with me is welcome to give me any input. When I went to the embassy to ask that, and other questions last week the SS office was closed for the day since I was quite late in arriving from Immigration.
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Subject: Re: Well I never!! Thomas Hunt Saga to continue
Date: Tue, 05 May 2009 06:56:07 -0000
From: markincebu
To: Expats-in-Cagayan-de-Oro@yahoogroups.com
Tom
In order for the SS payments to cease, the US Embassy will need sight of the Death Certificate. That said, has anyone (who's a US Citizen) contacted the Manila Embassy and explained the situation to them? They did send two Consular officials to visit Mr Hunt, maybe if the same two officials were to have sight of his body in the funeral home this would be sufficient for them to advise the SS Administration to put his Pension on-hold pending further investigation and/or sight of the Death Certificate.
It seems to me that, given their track record thus far, an attempt to bury Mr Hunt may be made without a proper Death Certificate. Think about it: the very last bit of paper they want is a real Death Certificate because, until his death is recognized officially by the US Government, his SS Pension will continue to be paid. However once his death is registered, anyone can obtain a copy from the NSO and that could bring about the end of their gravy train and also might result in Janelaze's prosecution for fraud. And Dermott would be an accessory and possibly charged with conspiracy by the Federal authorities. So it's not in the Songcuya family interest to get a genuine Death Certificate.
As far as "Spooks" is concerned, at some stage there will be a "mediation session" between the parties and presided by a City Prosecutor. It is only after this session and based on the written submissions manifested by both the Songcuyas and Spooks, will the Prosecutor decide whether or not to prosecute Spooks. You can be very confident that the Songcuyas will make monstrous demands at this mediation session and it wouldn't surprise me one jot if their demands include a full settlement of the hospital's and funeral home's accounts, payment for Aurea's and Linda's part in Mr Hunt's care and moral damages.
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Subject: Up date
Date: Tue, 5 May 2009 14:59:11 +0800 (SGT)
From: Mike of Spooks
To: Expats-in-Cagayan-de-Oro@yahoogroups.com
Ok. As suspected this was what is called a fishing excercise and an attempt at justification. The Clerk of courts who requested my presence had ID showing her to be Grace Songcuya. On understanding who she was I declined to answer or offer opinions on this subject save the following:
1/ I confirmed that Spooks is a bar and only has one office which is mine.
2/ That to the best of my knowledge having not seen any legal papers personally the Expats ladies group has formed a legal entity under which it operates.
3/ Yes foreigners, wives, girlfriends family and partners often meet at Spooks on a Friday for a buffet. Just one of many places they choose to meet.
4/ What they choose to discuss whist socializing is for them.
Grace tried to defend her self and family by claiming that the expat ladies are just money making and that payment for Toms medicines from them was minimal and not fully accounted for.
Suggest that:
1/ You have to hand a full set of notarized copy documents proving the legal existence, aims and objectives of the expats ladies fund.
2/ That a source and application of funds statement with receipts is formally drawn up and signed off as an interim statement by a CPA.
Grace has advised that the group has no rights whatsoever to be involved and has instructed the hospital not to cooperate in releasing billings or confirmation of payments received.
I have no idea where this will now go and suggest speculating will be of no value. Grace sees what is written here and is aware of the position as group members see it. I suggest all future postings now cease and that only relevant and pertinent factual statements regarding legal standing of the fund plus the source and application of funds as outlined above are now focused on and this needs to be done OFF LIST direct to Daisy.
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Subject: Re: Up date
Date: Tue, 05 May 2009 03:43:35 -0400
From: Elmer Zink <elmer@zinkhome.net>
To: Expats-in-Cagayan-de-Oro@yahoogroups.com
> Grace has advised that the group has no rights whatsoever to be involved
> and has instructed the hospital not to cooperate in releasing billings
> or confirmation of payments received.
And the thing is, bata gracy had no authority to do what she did today.
She is only an assistant clerk of court. She is not an attorney. She is not a judge.
She summoned you without a paper summons to conduct a fishing expedition in an effort to search for funds to pay her bill at Cosmopolitan Funeral Home.
Is this a new authority granted a clerk of the court by the Philippine Constitution or Philippine or Misamis Rules of Court?
She has no authority whatsoever to do what she did or to tell the hospital anything. A clerk did all of this? And people let her do this?
I agree... all future discussions offlist...
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Subject: Re: Up date
Date: Tue, 05 May 2009 07:43:58 -0000
From: jilwrinkle
To: Expats-in-Cagayan-de-Oro@yahoogroups.com
Well, I certainly hope that after our side is shored up and all asses covered, that there is a legal way to train our sights on this lady and return fire for her actions.
She's picked a fight with the entire expatriate community of Cagayan De Oro... and probably of The Philippines by the time this gets out. It would be a shame if all of the animosity and acrimony bottled up in all of us never got a chance to land right on her head.
And we're Americans! We invented the fucked-up-and-ridiculous lawsuit. Are we going to let some Filipina greenhorn try and muscle in on our territory? Hell no!!! There better be a countersuit that comes out of all of this, or none of us deserve to call ourselves the sue-happy litigation-crazy Americans we are!!!!!!!
Go Broncos!
[music selection: "I'm proud to be an American" by Lee Greenwood.]
Yes... Sorry MikeMike... but you get to be an honorary American if you want. Hope that's okay.
Jungle Jil
http://junglejil.blogspot.com
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Subject: Update and Grace Songcuya situation
Date: Tue, 05 May 2009 01:08:18 -0700
From: Tom Landry
To: Mike of Spooks
Mike:
I am in complete agreement that everything regarding this situation should be taken off group completely.
I spoken with my wife Alicia's ex-boss with the City Counsel, whom I believe you also know. He is also checking with some friends and will get back with me.
He stated that Grace Songcuya has no legal to authority to verbally summon you and or request any information from you or anyone else. He highly recommended that Atty. Penaranda be contacted and advised of what is going on. This is who Grace works for and she is apparently also the one who brought the old case against Grace. I am trying to obtain her e-mail and phone number and shall advise if I can get this.
I know that you and the other guys on this list have lived in CDO longer than I and you may know of a good honest attorney in CDO that possibly has some political pull. If not I shall advise of whom the recommendation of an attorney that the city official advises me of.
It was suggested that Atty. Penaranda be contacted directly to arrange for a meeting with her (perhaps you and the Ladies Charity Organization) in the company of a good attorney present the facts and evidence of the circumstances surrounding the situation with Tommy Hunt when he was alive and the issues brought about by Grace since his death.
If you, Daisy and the Ladies Organization want to go forward with this I am will do whatever you would like and will certainly make arrangements to have the $200.00 I previously sent just prior to Tommy's death delivered to you. Just let me know.
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Subject: Power of Attorney for Ted Hammon to Bring Tommy's remains Home
Date: Tue, 05 May 2009 03:15:10 -0700
From: Tom Landry
To: Elmer Zink
Elmer and All:
Although the writing appears to be that of Janelaze, it sounds like Albert. None the less, this Janelaze bitch blammes everyone including Tommy, his ex-wife and his family for all of his financial losses. She told me on two occasions that Tom's house was lost by his ex-wife.
I have confirmed from other family members that this is not the case. It is my understanding that Tommy refinanced his house a couple times to take care of his needs at that time to bring Janlaze to the US, provide support money to Janlaze's family, money for her trips supposedly to visit friends and family in a few different states (California, Virginia and one other for sure). Tommy was quite a handyman and built beautiful furniture as he ha a large shed full of wood working equipment. It is understood today that he
sold all of this equipment. He also borrowed money from friends, the church and family which was completely out of character for him. All of these same people warned him about her and tried to discourage him from bringing her to the US and then tried to discourage him from returning CDO.
Issues apparently came about with friends and family over his decisions, money and efforts to accommodate all of her desires and that this is the strain that we are seeing with Tommy's family and Janelaze. As it was the friends, family were really pissed off at Janelaze and disappointed with Tommy's decision. The feelings were demonstrated and Tommy chose to support his young bride. I understand that when he ran out of money they decided to retire in CDO and buy a house for he and Janelaze and her family. We know
how she would have stirred up the shit with his family and assured him that her good family oriented Filipina family would take good care of him. It was my understanding that he left without her to go to CDO and check things out for housing options and that Janelaze would join him.
We know he went to CDO and stayed in a hotel for some time and then he moved in with the family. It was the understanding that for some reason he was running out of funds and had to move into Linda's house with no floor. Apparently he was not getting all his SS money and was not buying medication/insulin and got sick. Perhaps Janelaze need more money in Virginia dring this time. His condition got worse during the heavy storms in CDO in January and he finally went to the hospital at the end of January.
Janelaze never mentioned that it was Toms desire to be buried in the Philippines until now. Now we know first hand that when Tommy was in Polymedic that he stated on numerous times that he wanted to return to the US and these were his last wishes.
I spoke with Ted for about one hour. He really appreciates everyone's assistance. He stated that when he saw the video of Tommy' speaking with him in the hospital, that he appeared to be dying of a broken heart and was giving up. After all of his time in the PI that Janelzae did not come and the when is was hospitalized and she didn't come and called infrequently, that he must have none that she had taken advantage of him, embarrassed to tell his friends and family that they were right and she just used him. His heart was broken and his will to live then broke.
To give you a short summary of my conversation with Ted, he said that he has spoken with his cousin Chuck, I believe another cousin and one of Tom's sisters. He stated that if Janelaze provided him with POA, that we can obtain the necessary Death Certificate without paying the cost of the Hospital Bill, then obtain the US Embassy document, and the cost of burial in CDO is about the same as having Tommy's body cremated and his ashes returned to Phoenix, they would prefer the latter and have his remains returned and buried in the VA Cemetery in Phoenix. They said that although not everyone agrees with cremation, that times have changed and this would be preferred.
Ted also stated that although times are very tough and that they are also struggling, his company is not doing well, that he may experience a layoff at any time; however they shall try to raise $100 for Tommy's cremation and funeral expenses. I also gave him with Tommy's sister Elsie's phone number. He shall call her and other relatives and see if they are willing to donate whatever they can if the situation permits.
I believe that Janelaze feels that the Aunt will come through with her extortion attempt with the Ex-Pats and she can take the easy way to burry him in CDO. However, when they realize that we are not going to give into this extortion attempt, Janelaze will then come back crying for our assistance. When she is reminded of our conditions to further assist, I believe that she will have no other opportunity to give Ted the necessary Power of Attorney. At that point the key will be obtaining the Death Certificate, providing that to the Embassy, I would escort the body to Cebu for cremation and return to CDO with his remains and then transport them to Phoenix. If we paid the 48,000 plus the 500 pesos daily until his remains are moved from the mortuary, we would then need about 35,000 for the transportation, cremations and return. This would be less that spending 60,000 pesos for the plot at Oro Gardens. However, if we can not obtain the death certificate and can not return him to the US, then Ted suggested to bury him in a nice but modest Cemetery in CDO.
Ted did advise that he has contacted Social Security and advised them of the Death of Thomas Hunt provided his SSN and advised of the entire situation. The SS has apparently put a hold on the account for review and advised that the last payment will have to be repaid and Tommy passed away a couple days after receipt of the monthly SS Payment.
The US Embassy was advised by myself and also the VA. As was stated previously, to make things official, the VA and SS require the death Certificate and the Embassy endorsement to formalize their documentation.
I have sent two e-mails to Erick Eilskov at the US embassy and asked him specific questions that I have nut yet received any response.
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Subject: Re: Thomas Hunt Memoriam Page
Date: Tue, 5 May 2009 16:23:23 -0700
From: Pam Doerr
To: Elmer Zink
Dear Elmer,
Thanks for everything that you are doing for Tom Hunt. I have attached the only photo that we have of Tom Hunt. Hope it comes thru to you.
Tom was a member for many years. I'm not sure what year he started attending. It was before my time.
He was Sunday School Superintendent at the time. He was very faithful in his attendance. He would do anything we asked of him on the computer. He was really big into computers.
He studied his bible faithfully and even would go online and study with different versions.
He worked for Hoppstetter's Office Products for a long time. He worked on typewriters and things liked that. He retired from them
in April, 2008 that is when he left for the Philippines.
P Doerr for Glenn Connell
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Subject: Gold Star
Date: Wed, 6 May 2009 03:28:25 -0500
From: C T Dunn
To: Tom Landry, Elmer Zink, Daisy Cline
Hello all,
Is Gold Star a newspaper in Cagayan de Oro?
If so, and they indeed do go ahead with a story on the Hunt situation, I hope they will talk with Elmer Zink and Tom Landry.
They should also contact the reporter who wrote that ill written story in the Yuma newspaper.
I thought the item in Jungle Jil's blog was fairly written and fairly complete. The only point I sort of disagreed with was Jil's reference to Albert's involvment. I think Jil gave poor old Albert far too much credit, I thought Albert was a thorn in the side for the most part. He did do some things, but, he also seemed to want a pat on his back or an atta-boy. When that didn't happen he became vindictive and crass. He doesn't come across as a person I'd want to know, much less, do any business with.
I cannot, for the life of me, understand why Mrs. Hunt didn't drop everything and run to the side of her husband. I will never forgive her for her lack of concern for Mr. Hunt. I hate to admit it, her actions had me second-guessing whether I wanted to continue with the fiancee visa for Nancy. Nancy just told me, "All Filipinos aren't like Jane and we do not know the whole story." Bless her heart. (Nancy's)
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Subject: Re: Power of Attorney for Ted Hammon to Bring Tommy Home
Date: Thu, 7 May 2009 06:47:25 -0700 (PDT)
From: Laze Songcuya
To: Elmer Zink
This email contains foul language from Albert and disrepects the Honorable name of Thomas Hunt. To read this vulgar email go to the Janelaze and Albert Page, at http://zinkhome.net/janelaze.html
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Subject: Re: Power of Attorney for Ted Hammon to Bring Tommy Home
Date: Thu, 07 May 2009 20:36:26 -0500
From: Elmer Zink
To: Janelaze Songcuya, Albert Dremott adermott@g2sf.com
Albert.... Albert... Albert... so sweet of you.. to express such nasty sentiments.
I am just trying to help an unfortunate vet, to be given the honor and respect he deserves, and this is how I am treated.
Do you realize that I really don't care about Albert's and Janelaze personal life? I only mention it because it is part of the equation. Other than that, I could care less. Your personal lives are none of my business.
But, helping a man that has been taken advantage of, and now being denied burial next to his parents in a Veteran's cemetery... that is part of my Christian duty.
I am sorry that Janelaze took advantage of such a sweet, quiet Christian man as Thomas Hunt. I am sorry that Albert Dermott inadvertently got caught up in that mess. But, Thomas Hunt even being in the Philippines was based totally, 100% on Janelaze Lies to
him. His whole last 4 years was based on one big lie.
So, why not do what is right, and give the man some respect, and just let the man come home to be buried next to his parents in the Veteran's Cemetery in Phoenix?
This is not about Elmer Zink. This is not about Ted Hammon. This is not about Janelaze Songcuya or Albert Dermott.
It is about Thomas Hunt and giving him his final due and just respect and honor.
I am asking you both to please reconsider?
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Subject: Re: Thomas Hunt
Date: Fri, 8 May 2009 00:20:23 -0700 (PDT)
From: Thamas Ray Sorronda
To: Elmer Zink
Mr. Zink,
As of today May 8 here in the Philippines, no development or shall we say no payment has been made by the people who have talking to us.. 5 days ago...., they informed our office that the burial will be on May 9th, that will be tomorrow.
But as far as we are concern, I think it won't happen anytime this week bcoz they still havn't got the death certificate from the hospital, thus they cannot also get the corresponding burial permit.
As for the charges, They were brought here in our estasblishment last April 26... For the 45,000.00 package that they got, it is only good for 5 days use of our chapel, currently they are already stayed about 12 days in the chapel. Our charge beyond the 5 days will 500/day, not to mention the other charges that they have incurred.
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Subject: Re: Court Clerk Perhaps Abusing Her Authority in CDO
Date: Fri, 08 May 2009 05:34:04 -0700
From: Tom Landry
To: herbie gomez
CC: Elmer Zink, Daisy Cline, Ted Hammon, Mike Belter
Dear Herbie:
I was first sent a copy of your article by a member of the CDO City Council where my wife worked before we moved to the US. I have since been provided with numerous e-mails with word attachments of your article. Your article has now been read by people from all over the US, Kuwait, Ireland and England and Scandinavia where other members of our group and other ex-pat groups reside or have homes.
I sent you an e-mail which contained quite a bit of information. However, I stated that I would follow-up and give you a call the following day. Unfortunately, my wife and I are at our home in California and will not return to our home in Iponan until later this month. I apologize for not calling you. I was very busy working and was not able to call you.
I commend you on your article and thought that it was well written, fair and giving all the benefit of the doubt to all involved. I understand that from your point being a journalist and editor, that you receive inputs from people who have not substantiated the facts. However, it is time that the truth really be written for all to know and I encourage that you write a follow-up article on this situation.
I have every e-mail on my computer from the first post on our yahoo group that advised that there was an American who was hospitalized in CDO. It was sent by another Ex-pat who was at the same hospital for a check-up. His doctor mentioned to him that there was a very lonely American hospitalized and it may raise his his spirits if had had a visitor from other Ex-Pats.
As a result of that first posting, a number of Ex-Pats and some of their wives went to the hospital to visit this man out of the kindness of their hearts. Most everyone was surprised to meet this man for the first time after finding out that he had been in CDO for approximately 9 months at that time.
The Ex-Pat's Group has been very friendly and generous to invite foreigners from all over the world who are visiting CDO or just moving to CDO to come by themselves, with their girlfriends, wives and children to the approximate 17 various gatherings that they have at different venues every month. The purpose of this group is to assist foreigners acclimate to the life in CDO, assist with hotel referrals, housing referrals, giving the pros and cons of the different utilities and in my case, provided guidance on the cost and quality of different building materials, construction workers, where to get our cars repaired, etc.. It is very nice to see people from all over the world get together in a foreign land and assist one another. As a result of the get togethers' at the different venues many of the Ex-Pats, the girlfriends and wives and children of this group have become good friends. Over the course of the past few years there have been situations that have come about where Ex-Pats were hospitalized and need financial assistance, a few have died and denotations were made to assist the families with these financial burdens. Earlier this week there was another Ex-pat who fell when downtown, obtained and badly broken bone, had surgery and is still hospitalized. This man also receives visits from Ex-pats and the Wives on a daily basis.
Elmer was correct in stating that the CDO Ex-Pats Wives formed an official Charity Organization. However, the group started by these fine Christian ladies helping other in the community, they feed about 300 children out at the Dump at Christmas Time. They raised money and worked with JollyBee to bring the food to the dump to feed these children. As it goes and if my memory serves me correctly, JollyBee only gave these ladies a 10% discount and JollyBee received all of the publicity recognition. This was fine as it was never their intention to receive publicity or recognition for their efforts. Just as they received no recognition for the donations that were obtained and distributed during the floods in early to mid January or the scholarships that they established for a group of high school and college students. Daisy Cline the president of this Charities Organization and the ladies that make up the Charity Group are a true God send and are some of the nicest, kindest and God loving people that I have ever met. I shall also note that they are not just well organized, but very detail oriented people who provide the details of every donation made by whom, the dollars and pesos donated and a list of every expense with receipts attached. Most member of the group trust these ladies as family, know the credibility of their characters and would literally trust them with their life.
After numerous people visited Tommy Hunt, as he is known by his real friends and family in the US: it was apparent to all that this man was very lonely, suffering from not being provided his Diabetic insulin and other medications as he was diagnosed with an apparent brain tumor. As you stated he was admitted into a private room at Polymedic Hospital at the end of January. As he had just received his Social Security Check on the third week of January, he thought that he had the money to pay for the hospital, Doctor and medicine. He was stabilize in about 10-14 days and was given a medical release from his doctor (Dr. Patriana) for his discharge from the hospital. Unfortunately, his in-laws could not account for his money and they couldn't make a payment to accommodate his release. From that point in time his condition got worse apparently because he was not being provided with the medications and insulin that he needed daily. Tommy Hunt then contracted what the doctor has called a Hospital Virus Syndrome and this really made him more ill with apparently an infection such as pneumonia in his lungs.
It was about this time when the Ex-Pats became aware of him being hospitalize. After the initial visits from the Ex-pats and their wives, posting were made advising all of his situation. The doctor said that he should be transported back to the US for further medical evaluations and treatment. The doctor said that Tommy would need to be accompanied by a nurse. Immediately everyone started asking where is his wife and where is his money and what can we do to help this Christian man in need. Daisy Cline and a number of other ladies in her organization visited him again and asked if he desired help and what they could do to help him. He advised them that he wanted to go home to Arizona. That afternoon more postings went out asking how can we help this man. It was stated that the wife was in Virginia and I volunteered to try to contact her since my wife and I are in the US. Daisy and the ladies decided that they would contact the US Embassy in Manila and advise them that he was there and wanted to return home to Arizona. The Embassy advised hem that he would have to provide a Privacy Act release document completed and signed by Tommy Hunt reflecting those individuals that he granted permission for the US Embassy to work with to accommodate his needs. The document was sent to Daisy and she and the ladies took it to the hospital and explained to Tommy that if he wanted them to assist him that the US Embassy need him to complete this document and have it returned to the US Embassy before they could get involved. Tommy completed this document and identified Janelaze and daisy on this document. Daisy provided this document to the US Embassy and provided them with all of his pertinent information, name, address and phone numbers to the hospital. This apparently got the attention of the Sobgcuya family as they then began going to the hospital. The US Embassy sent a representative to CDO and visited the hospital and met with Tommy and his sister-in-law Aurea Songcuya and I believe his mother-in-law Linda Singcuya. The Embassy representative contacted Daisy and said that Tommy Hunt was not destitute as he received his SS payments and that his in-laws were taking care of him. As they considered him not to be destitute, there was nothing that they can do.
During the same time that Daisy and the ladies of their organization were visiting the hospital daily, bringing fruit and foods to Tommy and coordinating the with the US Embassy, my wife Alicia and I were able to obtain the phone number of Janelaze and contacted her. We spoke to her for two days in a row and at that time felt sorry for her. She sated that She had arrived in Arizona in December 2005, obtained her 2 year Conditional Green Card but had issues with obtaining her 10 Year Non Conditional Green Card. She advised us that she had just received her Extension of her Conditional Green card, but that she can not travel out and return to the US. We told her that it was requested that she return to CDO to be with her husband and to assist return him to the US. She said that as she worked at Macy's she only makes $250.00 per week and can not afford to obtain a round trip ticket. I advised her that we were donating a Round Trip Ticket for her to return to CDO to be with her husband and then return him to Arizona as he desires. She said that if she left the US that she could not return with him. I advised her that if she had an extension, that the extensions are given for one additional year and it clearly states on it that she has permission to travel and to work in the US during this time. She sated that she was told different. I advised her that I have an Immigration Attorney who previously worked for the USCIS and that my wife and I had hires him in 2005 and he worked with us for her to obtain her visa to the US, then obtain her 2 year Conditional Green Card and then with obtaining her Non Conditional Green Card. I suggested that he evaluate this document and provide her with the facts. She said that she didn't have the money for an attorney. My wife and I told her that we would pay the attorney for his evaluation. I contacted the Attorney, explained the situation and he stated that all extensions are for a one year period and that this authorizes both travel in and out of the US and working within the US. We again contacted Jane laze and advised her of this information. She said that she was told that she can work but not travel. I said that it should be clearly stated on the front of the extension document, but if she would like she could provide via fax me or my attorney and that he would evaluate this and advise accordingly. She said that she did not have access to a fax machine, but could fax in a few days. We advised her that although she was working she should plan to take some vacation time and go to CDO to be with her husband at his time of need and assist to return them to Phoenix. We waited for a few days and then tried to contact Janelaze. After sending e-mails, Txt messages and making phone calls to her for number of days we were able to reach her on the phone. She sated that her friend had advised her not to send any documents to me or to the attorney as they do not know us. My wife and I advised her that our intentions were honorable and that we only want to assist this man in his time of need to bring his wife home to hin and then for the two of them to return to Phoenix Arizona. She said that she would talk to her frineds and get back to us. We did not hear from Janelaze for 3-4 weeks.
After that I did some research and was able to identify a cousin of Tommy Hunt residing in Yuma Arizona where Tommy lived most of his life. I spoke to him explained that Thomas had been hospitalized at the end of January and had now been in the hospital form early two months, his condition was getting worse, his wife Janelaze was in Virginia and I was trying to locate other relatives to assist him to return to the US. They asked who was I and why was I involved in this situation. I explained to them that if I were in Tommy's shoes and hospitalized in a foreign country that I would appreciate the assistance from a fellow American to assist me to go home. His cousin Chuck asked me why Janelaze was not with him and helping him return to Arizona. I told him that what Janelaze had told me. He said that all of Tommy's family was very skeptical about Janelaze as shespent his money buying many things and traveling. He stated that soon after they were married, Janelaze traveled to numerous other states to visit her friends and family in the US while Tommy was still in Yuma Arizona. They said that his family and church friends tried to talk him out of going to the Philippines by himself. They stated that Tommy refinanced his house twice sending Janelaze money in the Philippines and o bring her to Yuma Arizona. After she arrived he re-financed his house again to provide money for her cloths, other purchases and travels. Cousin Chuck said that as soon as Tommy left for the Philippines, Janelaze continued her travels to California, Virginia and New York. He told me that he felt sorry for Tommy, but that he couldn't do anything from a financial standpoint as he had loaned Tommy about $8,000 US dollars. He said that his entire family was friends tried to talk him out of going to the Philippines without Janelaze, but she assured him she would join him in a few weeks. Chucks wife gave me some basic information on Tommy's other blood family members and his step-son Ted Hammon. I was able to locate the phone numbers of two of Tommy's sisters (68 and 70 years old) who live in different states. I also spoke to Ted Hammon. Ted provided me with plenty of information about Tommy as Ted's mom was Tommy's love of his life. Unfortunately, she passed away and Tommy raised Ted and stayed in close contact with Ted through his adult years. Ted said that since Tommy had just lost his home in foreclosure as a result of the spending, travels and buying a car by Janelaze and moved them into a temporary apartment, that it was Tommy's plan to return to CDO with Janelaze, buy a house for she and her family and retire there on his SS Payments. Ted also advised me that Tommy had also sold all of his shop tools, equipment, home furnishings and other items of values and borrowed money from family and friend for his move to CDO. Ted said that it really hurt him and family members to see that Janelaze had abandoned him. He said he hadn't heard from Tommy since he first arrived in CDO and was very concerned about him. He said that he wanted to honor his step-fathers wishes and help return him back home to Phoenix. He said that although he was having difficult times and had little knowledge on how to go about bringing him home, he said that he would do all that he could to assist. I assured him that we would assist he and his family in anyway we could to assist in bringing Tommy home. By this time it was the 2nd 3rd week in March and Tommy's heath continued to deteriorate and the doctor said that his condition needs to be stabilized and then he should be accompanied to the US by two Nurses as he now needed additional assistance.
During this same time span other Ex-Pats began doing searches on the internet and located a Facebook account, MySpace Account am Imeem Account that reflected some shocking language and pictures of Janelaze, and different friends lists on different accounts. One account reflected her name as Janelaze Songcuya and also Janelzae Dermott. There were comment stating that she had found the love of her life and pictures with another man that is not Tommy Hunt. Another picture reflected a caption of her two boys and the Picture is apparently Albert Dermott and his dog. (picture attached). All of the original Web accounts were saves in soft copy before Janelaze and Albert realized that people had accessed their public accounts. The then deleted all of the pictures and closed or restricted the accounts.
My wife and I contacted numerous organizations in the US (US Sates Department, US Embassy, Catholic Charities USA, Air Rescue International, MedAire, Angel Flights). We also contacted Nurses in Manila that we know to see if we could arrange for two nurses to go to CDO assist Tommy to fly back to Manila and then to LAX and finally home to Phoenix Arizona. We had to consider his actual condition when stabilized. The options were o provide two Nurses with RT Ticket and expense money to escort Tommy back to Arizona if he could sit for the approximate 17 hour flight. If he could not sit for that duration, we obtained quotes of $38,000 - $41,000US for a stretcher flight on PAL which would take two weeks to arrange. Were were quoted about $138,000 for a private medivac flight with a doctor and nurse.
I provided Ted Hammon with an International Calling Card and coordinated with the ladies charity to arrange for a phone call to Daisy Cline while she was at the hospital so that Te could speak to his stepfather. Unfortunately Tommy's condition continued to deteriorate and when the call occurred Tommy was barely lucid. The ladies took a video of the call so that ted could see his stepfather. Ted said he kept his composure during the call but could see Tommy in a situation as he had never seen before, He told me that Tommy appeared to be broken hearted and that he had lost face (so-to Speak) as he know knew that his family and friends were correct that he should not have gone to CDO. Ted said that his father was an honorable man who but realized that he had made a mistake and rather than to feel more shame would not call his friends or family for help again. Ted said that he believed that as a result of this, he believed that Tommy had lost his will to live. The following day, Tommy went into basically a comatose state, began hemorrhaging and was moved into the ICU Unit at Polymedic hospital.
I do want it to be know that Linda and Aurea Sangcuya began staying with Tommy and alternated their times at the hospital. At times the appeared to be concerned about his welfare. The initially question the involvement of our group in helping a man who was a stranger. Apparently they do not believe that there are any good people left on this earth that are willing to assist a stranger.
As the family did not had only paid 13,000 pesos towards the hospital bill which was now about 200,000 pesos, the hospital required a down payment from the family to treat him in ICU. The family didn't pay this and Tommy was treated as an outpatient in the ICU. It was then that the ICU nurses advised Daisy and the ladies that his conditioned deteriorated because he was not receiving his daily insulin and medications and that he needed an immediate blood transfusion.
At this point the Ladies Charity organization demonstrated their true desire to help this man to stay alive and hopefully provide his with the necessary blood transfusions and medications to stabilize his condition so that he could be returned to the US. The doctor said that he should have a full recovery if he received the blood transfusions and daily medication for a probable 7 days period. It was then that the Ladies started a fund raiser and expanded their effort to locate A Negative Blood which is very rare in the Philippines and was able to solicit blood donations from three Ex-pats, one in CDO, one in Cebu and one in Dumagette. Unfortunately it took about five days to finally get the first blood transfusion to Tommy. As soon as we were advise that Tommy was moved into ICU and needed money for medications and blood, MY wife Alicia sent $100.00 to her mom in CDO who then hand carried it to Aurea Songcuya in the hospital. We never did find out how they spent that initial $100.00 USD. Other ex-pats donated between $50 USD $300USD to the Ladies Charity Organization to ensure the money was received and intended for his medication and blood donations. These ladies then went to the Philippine Red Cross to coordinate blood donations and pay for the fees associated and hand carry the blood to the hospital ICU. The majority of the money received was obtained by these ladies and they then would go out on a daily basis to two or more pharmacies obtain the new medications and very strong antibiotic that he urgently needed every day. Unfortunately there were a couple days over the Easter weekend when money could not be received and medications could not be obtained. After there was improvement with the medications his condition slipped backwards every day he did not receive his daily medications.
After 3-4 weeks of not hearing from Janelaze, I received a call from Janelaze asking for assistance with donations. I advised her that we had donated $100. And had this delivered directly to her sister. I asked Janelzae what Tommy's Social Security payments wee not being utilized for his medication or his hospital bill. She said that his SS was being used for his medication and hospital bill. I told her that she should check on this that only 13,00 pesos had been paid and he was not getting his medications because there were no funds provided by her family and this is why his condition deteriorated. I suggested that she also try to raise funds for her husband and to send this money to the ladies Charity organization. She said that she sends $100.USD every week and that this is all she can do. I again told her that she should follow-up to determine where this money was going.
It was this same time frame when Albert Dermott came into the situation. He said that he was her friend and just wants to help his friend. Then the real mess started, Albert joined the Ex-Pats Yahoo Group and asked why stranger's were helping this man. We explained to him that we do try to assist those in need and the Ladies Charity Organization were determined to grant this man's last wished to return to Arizona. Albert and Janelaze realized that people couldn't understand why a wife would leave her husband in CDO for nine months and then would not return to be with him in his dire time of need. I know that I would be there for my wife and that my wife would have been there for me immediately. Both Albert and Janelaze became very defensive and then went on a counter attack making accusations about the integrity of this group. Apparently Janelaze, Albert or any of the Songcuya family had never before helped a stranger in need and couldn't believe that there are humans in this world that do assist other even if they do not know them. Apparently they have never heard of the concept or seen the movie "Pay It Froward".
Despite our frustration from the ludicrous accusations the group was regenerated and re-committed to continue or efforts. As donations never came in at an amount that would allow the ladies to buy medication for a 2-3 day period these ladies ran around every days to Western Union, the bank and other locations to obtain the donated funds. They would then go out and buy the medications at 2-3 pharmacies and then deliver the medication to the ICU Nurses. Daily accountings were posted on a daily basis reflected the individuals who donated money to the ladies charity organization and each medication purchased with all costs accounted for. The Sunday before Tommy dies, Daisy had to go to church with her family and had another engagement so she took money to Linda early in the morning and told her that she needed to buy the medication and deliver them by 12:00 PM noon so that Tommy would not miss his medication at the needed time. Daisy went to the hospital about 2:00PM and found that Linda had not arrived with Tommy';s medication. Daisy stayed at the hospital for three hours and after 5:00PM Linda showed up. It was now over five hours since Tommy was to take his medication. On Monday, Daisy and the other ladies resumed their daily activities to obtain cash at different locations, purchase the medications and then take them to the ICU Nurses. Medications were provided on time as needed on Monday, Tuesday and I believe only some of the medications were provided on Wednesday as there was a lack of funds received. Although Janelaze and Albert committed to sending money either this money was not received or was not used for his medication or hospital bills. On Thursday April 23, Tommy, SS money was received and they purchased the medications for that day that he needed. The doctor advised them the ladies that they really needed to do procedure and needed money for that procedure. Daisy and some of the other ladies had a wedding on Saturday and advised Linda and Aurea that they would not be there on Friday as they had much preparation to do for the wedding on Saturday, April 25th. Apparently Tommy wasn't given his medications for these two days and on Sunday evening he passed away.
This is when Grace Songcuya became involved. We had never seen her before and know that until this point she had never done anything to assist Tommy Hunt since he was admitted to the hospital at the end of January. Why did she get involved at all and make the arrangements and commitments to pay. Janelaze and Albert had agreed to honor the wishes of Thomas Hunt and his family in Arizona and had coordinated this with Ted. It was the desire of ted and the family in Arizona to either have Tommy's body returned or to have him cremated and have his ashes returned in an Urn. I volunteered to go to CDO and to assist with the accommodations and personally return his remains to Arizona. Apparently Aunt Grace Songcuya decided she wanted to control this even though she had no authority or money to cover the costs that she had now committed. When I was told that Tommy had been taken to Cosmopolitan Funeral Home, I called Thamas Sarrando and asked him what was going on. He said that he was accommodating the desires of the wife and plans were made to bury him in CDO. I asked if he had spoken to the wife. He said yes that she came in and made the arrangements. I then advised him that he was not dealing with the wife Janelaze as she is in Virginia. He was surprised to hear this.
I have to stop now as it is very late.and I have been typing now for 5 hours and need to get to sleep. It is 5:20 AM here in California. I am more than willing to continue this story to make sure that you get the facts. However, if Daisy or Elmer want to take it from here, I would appreciate their efforts, if not I shall finish this tomorrow night.
I also want them to divulge to you the criminal activity regarding Grace Songuya in he recent past which provided some logic as to why she suddenly got involved and treated Daisy and the ladies in the inexcusable manner she did and had them escorted from the Wake.
I would also like for Daisy, Elmer, Mike and Ted to review and if necessary correct any errors or discrepancies that they may see as I am very tired. I also want Daisy to provide you with the details of every donation made and well as all of the expenses where this money was consumed.
I sincerely hope that you will do a follow-on story to clarify the people who should really be investigated as to what they did with Tommy's SS Money over all of these months.
-------- Original Message --------
Subject: Tom
Date: Fri, 8 May 2009 05:51:35 -0700 (PDT)
From: Albert Dermott (from fictitious ID) Independent Consultant <intelligence_programs_consultant@yahoo.com>
To: Elmer Zink
Elmer,
Seriously do not contact me in any way, shape or form. You and your EXPATS group have worn yourselves out when it comes to me. You people have said so many twisted things about myself and Janelaze that I am fed up with it.
Look here's some good advice. Leave it alone when it comes to me really.
Albert Dermott
-------- Original Message --------
Subject: Peace Proposals
Date: Sun, 10 May 2009 05:40:45 -0500
From: Elmer Zink
To: Janelaze Songcuya Hunt
Janelaze,
I have 2 proposals for you.
Its like this..
Your Husband Tom Hunt was virtually abandoned in the Philippines and virtually left to die there.
Because of the Janelaze and Albert's relationship became public knowledge.
If Tom Hunt would not have been left stranded in CDO & the hospital, no one would have known about you and Albert.
It was only because your and Albert's relationship was part of the story about Thomas Hunt that it became public.
I could care less about your relationship with Albert. It is none of my business. If someone would have come to me and told me about some married filipina cheating on her husband, I would have said, " SO WHAT! I don't need to know about it". Because, it is between those two and the husband. And, I am sure everyone else that has been involved with helping Thomas Hunt feels the same way.
But, it is because of this man left stranded in the Philippines, deceived into going there by his wife, and there he was dying in the hospital... and where is the wife?.... with another man... while her husband is dying.. that everything became public.
Now, you claim that Thomas Hunt wanted to go live in the Philippines and loved your family and wanted to be buried there.. Now, I don't know about being buried there, but I am sure that yes, he did want to go to the Philippines and that he did love your family, and just for you, I will say okay, maybe he wanted to be buried there.
But, if all that is true, WHY was it true?
It was all true because you deceived Thomas Hunt. His whole last 4 years was either one BIG LIE, or a sum total of hundreds of lies, depending on how you look at it.
Thomas Hunt Loved YOU! Janelaze. You lied to him. You deceived him into thinking that you loved and cared for him. Every decision he made since 2005, and maybe 2004?, was based on his love for you because you let him believe that you loved him. He sent
hundreds or thousands of dollars to the Philippines for your family because of his Love for You (because you lied and let him believe you loved him). He refinances his house to bring you here.. because you led him to believe you loved him. He took out additional 2nd mortgages to finance you traveling around the country, and buying things for you and your family, because, you led him to believe that you loved him.
You two planned on moving to the Philippines. Both of you planned to do that. You were lying to him. He believed in you. You had no intention of moving to the Philippines. Your plan the whole time was to move to be with Albert in Virginia as soon as your husband, Tom, moved to Cagayan de Oro.
You lied to Tom. You cannot see that the only reason he wanted to live in the Philippines is because you loved him and wanted to move to Cagayan de Oro to live together for the rest of your lives? What a beautiful romance, it was. But, it was a lie. It was a sham. But, Tom Hunt believed in it because his wife, Janelaze told him that that is what she wanted to do... and that she would follow once she got her permanent green card (or extension on the 2 year card).... But, it was all a lie.
Tom did not want to move there because he loved your parents.. He wanted to move there because you both did not have much money, he loved you, you told him you loved him, and you said you wanted to live in Cagayan de Oro with him.
So, now the burial... Of course... he wants to move to the Philippines because he believes his wife loves him, and shes tells him so, and she wants to live happily ever after in Cagayan de Oro with him.. so he believes they will be living out their lives in Cagayan de Oro, and so maybe he thought that eventually he would like to be buried there.
How many times was he told on the phone while in the Hospital, by Janelaze, "I Love You Honey" ... and how many times did Janelaze also tell Tom, on the cell phone, while he lay there in the Hospital..." I Miss you , Honey!" ... while she is in Virginia with another
man. Lies.. Lies... Lies...
But, the whole reason for Tom living in Cagayan de Oro and maybe dying and being buried there was based on Janelaze's lie to him that she loved him and wanted to spend her life with him in Cagayan de Oro.
If Tom Hunt had never met Janelaze Songcuya... and she had never told him she loved him... or once she was here and already cheating on him... If Tom had know that Janelaze did not love him... IF Janelaze had told Tom that she did not Love Him... If Tom knew that Janelaze was committing adultery with other men or women, or if Janelaze had told him she was committing adultery with other men or women; or if Janelaze would have just told him she wanted a divorce: or if Janelaze would have just told Tom that she did not really Love him; or, if Janelaze would have just told Tom that she did not want to go back to Cagayan de Oro to live with him....
............. if ANY of that would have happened, Tom Hunt would not have wanted to move to Cagayan de Oro, and Tom Hunt would not have moved to Cagayan de Oro.... and he would not wanted to have been buried there.
IF Tom Hunt would have known ANY of that or that Janelaze was lying to him... He would have wanted to stay in Yuma, Arizona and be buried there, or in Phoenix at the Veterans Memorial Cemetery.
If, it would not have been because of the lies and deceit from Janelaze Hunt, Thomas Hunt would have never left Yuma, Arizona. And would have never had any thought of moving, living, dying, or being buried in the Philippines.
Thomas Hunt has been lied to constantly for 4 years.
Based on had he known the truth he would have never left Yuma, and would have been buried here. Thomas Hunt was a Veteran and deserves the Honor of being buried next to his parents in the Veterans National Memorial Cemetery in Phoenix.
So, now proposal, Number One..
Sign the Power of Attorney to let Ted Hammon make all the arrangements and do all that is necessary to bring Tom home to Arizona to be buried at the Veterans Cemetery in Phoenix.
If the Power of Attorney is signed and Tom Hunt comes back to Arizona for burial... I will delete the Thomas Hunt Situation web pages from my website. Those pages were meant for one purpose... to try to help save Thomas Hunt's live... nothing more... and then
when he died.. to try to bring him home to Arizona. The pages were not meant for any other purpose.
So, once Thomas the Power of Attorney is signed and Thomas returns to Arizona... no more of the Thomas Hunt story, Janelaze, or Albert on my website... The pages will be deleted. It will be over. .
Proposal number 2... Albert supposedly wanted to give me the Chase bank account statements to prove that you, Janelaze, did not take any of the money from the account for your personal purposes.
Okay, give me the Chase bank statements of the last 6 months, October-April, and if I see no withdrawals by Janelaze for her use, then I will do a web page profusely stating and explaining that Janelaze never used any of Thomas Hunt's SS money and never took any
money out of the bank account to be used by her. And I will apologize wholeheartedly, for ever suggesting that you took any of the money and I will ask others to email me doing the same and put their apologies to you on that webpage.
Deal?
Please Janelaze, Thomas deserves the final Honor of being buried in the Veterans Cemetary in Phoenix.
It is not about Ted Hammon. It is not about Janelaze. Not about Albert. Not about Elmer Zink. Not about Grace Songcuya. Not about Tom Landry..... It is only about One person... It is only about Thomas Hunt and giving him the Honor he deserves.
Thankyou for your time,
-------- Original Message --------
Subject: You might want to read this.
Date: Sun, 10 May 2009 07:39:30 -0700 (PDT)
From: Jade M
To: Elmer Zink
This case is against Janelaze Songcuya Hunt's aunt who is suing the expat ladies. Please forward to Jungle Jil. Thanks
http://sc.judiciary.gov.ph/jurisprudence/2003/sep2003/am_p_01_1510.htm
-------- Original Message --------
Subject: Tragedy of Thomas Hunt - Gold Star Daily Articles
Date: Sun, 10 May 2009 20:13:45 -0700
From: Tom Landry <tomlandry@sbcglobal.net>
To: Eilskov, Eric C (Manila Embassy), John McCain,
CC: Ted Hammon, Tara Smith, Daisy Cline, Elmer Zink
Dear Eric:
I am not sure if you have seen the three different news articles in the CDO Gold Star Newspaper. I am forwarding to you a link for the third article that was published today.
At this point I do hope that his body is laid to rest. However, after reading today's article I still would like to see the following:
I sincerely hope that Daisy, all of the ladies of her Charity Group and all of the Ex-Pats who are in CDO, that have been involved with the efforts for Thomas Hunt, do take up the offer of Mayor Juraula, call his office and meet with him soon! I also hope that Mayor Juraula will follow-up with a call to the US Ambassador as he sated last week. Perhaps now the US Ambassador will work with the local government officials in the Philippines and perhaps those in the US. I believe that Thomas Hunt still may be alive today if others had gotten involved earlier, but it is never too late to do the right thing!
We all hope that after all of this, that government officials shall look into the following:
!) Why was Tommy was first admitted to the hospital?
2) Account for Tommy's SS payments and medicines to understand why Grace Songcuya says that he could not afford his medicines and food?
2) Why the Songcuya family did not utilize his SS payment in January and February towards his hospital bill and put forth a Promissory Note when he was medically released from the hospital in February?
3) What was Tommy's actual cause of death?
4) Confirm that an official Death Certificate is provided to the US Embassy and they intern provide this along with their documentation to SS to ensure that all SS payments are ceased.
Tom Landry
Gold Star Daily's latest article regarding the Hunt case can be seen here for those who still have an interest .
http://www.goldstardailynews.com/
-------- Original Message --------
Subject: Re: Thomas Hunt Burial
Date: Mon, 11 May 2009 03:29:30 -0500
From: Elmer Zink
To: Expats-in-Cagayan-de-Oro@yahoogroups.com
"It is finished" for Thomas J. Hunt.
As of about 45 minutes ago, Thomas Hunt was finally laid to rest in Oro Gardens, in Cagayan de Oro. It is not quite the same as spot next to his parents in Veterans National Memorial Cemetery, in Phoenix, Arizona, but he is at rest now.
Grace Songcuya was there... and loud again... An ABS-CBN News crew was there.. so maybe the burial will make the news this evening.. Maybe someone could record it for those of us not in the ABS-CBN viewing area....
From: (Albert Dermott) Independent Consultant <intelligence_programs_consultant@yahoo.com>
Subject: Re: You "people" are nothing but cretins!!!
To: Jerry Lynch
Date: Monday, May 11, 2009, 11:03 AM
This email contains foul language from Albert and disrepects the Honorable name of Thomas Hunt. To read this vulgar email go to the Janelaze and Albert Page, at http://zinkhome.net/janelaze.html
-------- Original Message --------
Subject: Fw: Re: You "people" are nothing but cretins!!!
Date: Mon, 11 May 2009 10:04:27 -0700 (PDT)
From: Jerry Lynch
To: CDO
Albert is so very eloquent!
-------- Original Message --------
Subject: Re: songcuyas' statements
Date: Tue, 12 May 2009 23:20:37 +0800
From: Daisy Cline <daisycline@gmail.com>
To: herbie gomez <editor.gomez@gmail.com>
CC: Tom Landry, Ted Hammon, Laze Songcuya, Elmer Zink,
Hello Herbie,
ABS-CBN interview:
FACTS!
1. We started our fund raising only when Mr Hunt is already in the ICU! This is with the full knowledge of Aurea and Linda here and Janelaze in the US. I asked Janelaze to email everytime the sponsor who give money or donate blood and give her personal thanks. I am the one who personally gave to Aurea the link of the Expats Forum where I compiled all the report of our fund rasing for her to monitor too..
http://www.livingincebuforums.com/ipb/index.php?showtopic=10636&st=50&start=50
2. Almost all of the medicines in the ICU is provided by the Expatriates Community here and abroad with an excemption of one OFW Filipina in Italy.
3 When we ended up our campaign for Mr Hunt's ICU medicines, Expats' Ladies Charities still owes Php 7,967.65, which was being paid by the OFW in Italy, Expat in Cebu and Mr & Mrs. Tom Landry. I gave special thanks to these people because this could have been charge to me as I could not allow the organization to shoulder the shortage.
4. There's no doubt among us that Linda and Aurea Songcuya took good care of Mr Hunt beyond their capacity too as in-laws! And in
5. Janelaze solicited money to fellow Filipinos in the US for the burial expenses because we both know that without the Power of Attorney in favor of the step-son, Ted Hammon, Expatriates will not help her produce the 2000 dollars that her Aunt asked for her. I have a chat conversation with Janelaze to support this truth! (please see attachement just for reference and not to be quoted)
Thank you very much and I hope all things will be straighthened out and we will all learn a lesson from his life.
-------- Original Message --------
Subject: Re: Power of Attorney for Ted Hammon to Bring Tommy Home
Date: Wed, 13 May 2009 11:26:25 -0700 (PDT)
From: Laze Songcuya <lacochi2027@yahoo.com>
To: Elmer Zink
Elmer,
Go away you are a very annoying person and for you to claim that you are not interested in our personal affairs is a bold faced lie. Since all you do is gossip about us and make silly little claims.
By the way I like the way that you make suttle claims to be a friend of Tom Hunt. You never knew him nor did you ever speak to him in you life.
Also Tom's already buried so that's that.
Elmer please pay attention to me on this. It is about time that you go away do we understand each other?
Yours truly my best little buddy,
Albert
-------- Original Message --------
Subject: Bank Statements
Date: Sat, 16 May 2009 05:04:58 -0500
From: Elmer Zink
To: JaneLaze Songcuya <lacochi2027@yahoo.com>
-------- Original Message --------
Subject: Re: Return of Tom Hunt's Remains to Phoenix
Date: Fri, 1 May 2009 22:09:44 -0700 (PDT)
From: Laze Songcuya <lacochi2027@yahoo.com>
>
>Elmer,
>
>Janelaze did not say that she won't let the body come home. Stop spreading rumors and lies.
>
>
Janelaze,
Well, Tom didn't get the honor and respect he deserved after death, or the last few months of his life. The whole thing of the past few months and his death have been so sad. I never met or talked with Tom, it is true. But, I cared tremendously for him, since reading of his sad story back in March. I dedicated myself to trying to save his life and get him the help he so desperately needed.
I took the story public to raise awareness of Tom's plight in an effort to inform people to hopefully get people contribute to his aid. So, many of the people involved and that contributed, never met or spoke with Tom. Maybe one male Expat and Daisy and a few of
the women from her group met him in the hospital and were able to talk with him. The other 25-50 people involved and hundreds more concerned never met Tom. Money was contributed from all over.. even from Italy. Amazing. Unfortunately, it wasn't enough.
A lot of people that never met Tom, loved him and were very concerned for him.
Anyways...
I would like to see the bank statements going back the 6-8 months prior to April 2009. I was told before that I would be shown the statements but never received them. As I said before, if the statements show you didn't use any of the social security money, I will state so on the website and publicly apologize for including any comments on the site that said otherwise.
Subject: Discussion at Topix.net Date: May 7th- present
There has been an interesting discussion with Albert Dermott on another forum.
Here is the link to that discussion: http://www.topix.net/forum/world/T231UA857Q1IBSUDI
--------Original Message --------
Subject: Friendster exchange.
Date: Sat, 19 May 2009 From Janelaze Songcuya To: Arian
Janelaze says:At least i am here in AMERICA.. How bout u der??? goosshh... i think you..... can't ever step even in the Airport of USA... too bad... don't worry i will try to petition you...
This "discussion" is way too vulgar and insulting to the Honor of Thomas Hunt and so has been placed on a separate page for Janelaze and Albert. http://zinkhome.net/janelaze.html Janelaze Songcuya page
-------- Original Message --------
Subject: Voicemail from Albert 202-595-4218
Date: Thu, 21 May 2009 5:18 pm
From: Albert Dermott
To: Elmer Zink
Albert Dermott: ha-ha-ha-ha-ha-ha-ha-ha-ha-ha-ha-ha-ha-ha-ha, ha-ha-ha-ha-ha-ha-ha-ha-ha, ha-ha-ha-ha-ha-ha-ha-ha-ha-ha, ha-ha-ha-ha-ha, ha-ha-ha-ha-ha
(Press player start button to listen to Albert.)
-------- Original Message --------
Subject: Voicemail from Albert 202-595-4218
Date: Wed, 27 May 2009 4:35 pm
From: Albert Dermott
To: Elmer Zink
Albert Dermott: Hi Elmer... when you gonna call your best friend back?
(Press player start button to listen to Albert.)
-------- Original Message --------
Subject: Voicemail from Albert 202-595-4218
Date: Wed, 27 May 2009 5:50 pm
From: Albert Dermott
To: Elmer Zink
Albert Dermott: Hey Elmer. C'mon little buddy. Give me a call back. Elmer! Call me. Come on Bud. You can call me. Bye!
(Press player start button to listen to Albert.)
-------- Original Message --------
Subject: Voicemail from Albert 202-595-4218
Date: Sat, 30 May 2009 2:25 pm
From: Albert Dermott
To: Elmer Zink
Albert Dermott: Hello. This message is for Elmer Zink.
My name is Albert Dermott. I've called and left a few messages for you to make contact with me.
This is in regards to allegations that you, yourself, have made, uh, both on your website, to the Expats Group, and to the, uh, Mindanao Gold Star Daily.
Uh, as you requested I would Love to meet you face to face. Uh, to provide you with any information "possible", so that you can see how wrong you were.
Again, I strongly urge to to call me at 202-595-4218.
Okay? Buddy!?
Little Buddy, call me.
(Press player start button to listen to Albert.)
-------- Original Message --------
Subject: Song: "Green Card Hunt"
Date: Sun, 7 Jun 2009 19:53:32 -0400(EDT)
From: "Anonymous" in Cagayan de Oro
To: Elmer Zink
by "Anonymous", 6 June 2009
(Press player arrow button .)
Time: 3:10 minutes
"Green card hunt"
You want a green card
But dont you mess with other people's lives
And dont you dare... dont break another heart
You hurt the old man
You called Tom "honey" when behind his back
You were with Albert and you called him a "man"(!?)
The tramp wants a green card
She told poor Tommy, "Honey, go ahead"
And left the old man on an Oro bed
So you want a green card
You were with Albert and you never came
And left poor Tommy on a foreign bed
So Tom died without you
Because the greenback and the card had weight
Because the card you thought can never wait
You want a green card
But dont you mess with other people's lives
And dont you dare... dont break another heart
Just a note: Unfortunately the people operating Gold Star Daily News do not understand the importance of archiving articles, and articles are deleted after 2 weeks. Once, I receive the article files I will add them to this site.
Gold Star Daily News articles, (click to view) by date:
May 8th May 9th May 11th May 12th May 13th #1 May 13th #2 May 14th May 15th May 16th May 19th Editorial: May 13th Editorial: May 14th Editorial: May 21st
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2 April 9 - April 15 |
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3 April 16 - April 25 |
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4 April 26 - April 30 |
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5 May 1 - Now |
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Janelaze & Albert Dermott |
Daisy and Alan Cline, friends of Mr. Hunt, and the contact person in Cagayan de Oro City, Philippines; cell phone: 920-438-8883 & 922-677-8169; email: daisycline@gmail.com ; Allan(Lee) Cline email: clinealan44@gmail.com
Ted Hammon, 602-380-1759, Mr. Hunt's stepson in Phoenix; email: td.hammon@cox.net
Tom Landry, friend of Mr. Hunt, who lives in California; Home: 949-559-6096 Mobile: 949-293-9675
email: tomlandry@sbcglobal.net
Mike Belter, Mike is another friend, who lives in Cagayan de Oro; Mike's cell phone: 927-930-7306 email: mikebelter@yahoo.com
Elmer Zink, Compiler of this webpage. And deeply concerned for Mr. Hunt's health and well-being. email: elmer@zinkhome.net
Note:
1.) To phone the Philippines 011-63 has to be dialed in front of the 10 digit cell phone number (011-63-xxx-xxx-xxxx).
2.) The Philippines is 15 hours ahead of US Pacific Time & 12 hours ahead of US Eastern time.
EZ