Thomas Hunt Situation
History and Chronology,
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Updated 
 July 21, 2009 5:33 AM +0800 Philippine Time
June 20, 2009 2:33 PM -0700 Arizona Time

Thomas Hunt died alone (without his wife Janelaze Hunt/ Jane Hunt)on April 26th at about 11 pm, Philippine Time (8am Arizona Time). Janelaze Hunt never went to visit her husband while he lay in the hospital dying from his entering the hospital on January 38th, 2009 until his death on April 26th. Janelaze Hunt also never traveled to go to her husband's funeral.

These pages involve the efforts to bring Thomas Hunt back to Yuma, Arizona to be buried next to his parents, at the Verterans National Memorial Cemetery, in Yuma. Janealze Hunt & Albert were supposedly for the idea, and Janelaze Hunt had agreed to sign a Power of Attorney to permit Ted Hammon, Mr. Hunt's step son, to bring Thomas's body back to Yuma... but Janelaze Hunt never signed the Power of Attorney.

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Janelaze &
Albert Dermott


-------- Original Message --------
Subject: Manila VA re: Thomas Hunt
Date: Sun, 26 Apr 2009 00:30:54 -0600
From: William Britt Lewis
To:  Elmer Zink

All,

Perhaps you already know this information, but I haven't seen any updates on how the Pharmacy benefit is being implemented at the manila VA for Thomas Hunt.

I've read posts on other PI groups by individuals who were not service-connected disabled vets and were receiving pharmacy benefits from the VA clinic in Manila.  I really didn't pay close attention because I'm not a vet, but a little research indicates that there are technically "two" VA clinics in Pasay City, Inpatient and Outpatient.

Only vets with service-connected problems can utilize the Inpatient clinic.  The Outpatient clinic serves both service-connected and nonservice connected situations to a limited degree, including Pharmacy benefits. 
The Outpatient Clinic is affiliated with the Honolulu VA. Here are some pertinent quotes and links.  I hope this is some help to getting Mr. Hunt his medications.


---------- Forwarded message ----------
From: Julia Gomintong
Date: Sun, Apr 26, 2009 at 8:35 PM +0800
Subject: Re: Humble Contribution
To: Daisy Cline

Greetings!

Hello Daisy, I am a Filipina OFW in Italy.  I have been following on Mr Hunt's case since Elmer Zink posted it thru the pages of  Mag-anak groups. I'm sorry that it's only now that I got the courage to do my christian duty.  I'm going to the bank right now to send a small contribution for Mr. Hunt's meds and I will be using your BPI SA number.  However I will send you a follow up email after the transaction.

With much esteem on what you do,
JG


-------- Original Message --------
Subject:  Mr. Thomas Hunt
Date:  Sun, 26 Apr 2009 09:51:53 -0700 (PDT)
From:  Laze Songcuya


To Everyone Involved,
 
Earlier today we learned that Mr. Thomas J. Hunt passed away about 11PM PI time. We would like to take this opportunity to thanks each and everyone involved in assisting Mr. Thomas J. Hunt during his time of need.
 
It is now the time for all involved to greive and put past events behind us and let the healing proccess begin.
 
Again we'd like to thank you for all your assistance.
 
I will be contacting the Oversea's Citizens Services on Monday 27, APR. 09 to coordinate assistance with bring the body home. I will also be calling Ted Hammon today so that he and Janelaze can decide where they would like Mr. Hunt to be buried.
 
Thank you,
Albert Dermott


-------- Original Message --------
Subject: Re: Thomas Hunt contribution - action taken - addition items that may  help
Date: Sun, 26 Apr 2009 10:17:28 -0700
From: Ted Hammon
To: Elmer Zink

Hi Elmer:

I haven't been making too many waves about things since Janelaze & Albert wanted the spot light.  I have been working in the background with the senator's offices here in Phoenix.  Although as of this morning is all over.  I received word from Albert that Tommy passed away at about 11 pm PI time.  Albert is going to continue to work with the Overseas people about returning the body. 

They asked my thoughts.  I only mentioned that if it can be done, I would like to see him buried at the VA Cemetary north of Phoenix, on Cave Creek Rd, as that is where his dad and mother is buried.  If not, I am not worried about the body.  I know my father is at peace in heaven from his life, his testimony and his personal relationship with Christ.  I rest my heart in that knowledge.

More later but that is what I can offer at this time.

Thanks so much for all you have done.  If anyone where to ask my personal opinion, any funds donated to Tommy that were unused or any that may come in, should NOT go to the family.  I would rather see the ExPats Ladies Charity hold them for other situations they find to help with.  Janelaze needs to step up and accept the responsibility at this point for any financial obligations that the hospital has for HER husband.


-------- Original Message --------
Subject:  Thomas Hunt
Date: Sun, 26 Apr 2009 11:15 -0700
From: Elmer Zink
To: Everyone

 It is with a very heavy heart that I must announce that Thomas J. Hunt passed away at 11 pm Philippine Time on Sunday, April 26, 2009, in Polymedic General Hospital, Cagayan de Oro City, Misamis Oriental, Philippines.

I am so saddened by this news.   Such a good man as Thomas Hunt deserved far better than to die alone in a foreign hospital and for lack of the essential medical treatment that he so desparately needed and which could have been provided here in the United States or in Manila.

Our Condolences to the family and close friends of Thomas on his tragic passing.   And many heartfelt thanks to Daisy Cline and the women of the Expats Ladies Charities, and the many people from around the world who contributed to the efforts to save Thomas.   Thank you ALL, from the bottom of my heart..... Elmer


-------- Original Message --------
Subject: Re: Mr. Thomas Hunt
Date: Sun, 26 Apr 2009 12:33:00 -0600
From: William Britt Lewis
To: Janelaze Songcuya

We are deeply saddened to hear this news. Our thanks to all who assisted in any way.

William and Mila


-------- Original Message --------
Subject:  RE: Mr. Thomas Hunt
Date:  Sun, 26 Apr 2009 15:58:55 -0400
From:  Keith Hillegass
To:  Elmer Zink

So sad to hear the news.  My family, Elsita, Faith, and myself thank everyone who helped this man in his time of need.  God bless to all those who sent donations, and those who visited him, and those who sent him prayers and good wishes.


-------- Original Message --------
Subject: Mr. Hunt
Date: Sun, 26 Apr 2009 19:08:06 -0400
From: Elmer Zink
To: Daisy Cline

Daisy,

  I am not satisfied to just know that Mr. Hunt passed away.  I would like to have more details as to his passing.  We have been too involved to just let it go that he just passed away.  Please do not just let this rest until you know all of the details.

 Please talk to the nurses & doctors on duty when he died.  Please talk to Aurea and see if she was there when he died?

What happened that he died?  Was he getting his medication? Was he not getting his medication?  Was anyone with him when he died?

When did you last visit him? When did Aurea last visit him? When did anyone last visit him? Did he die just because maybe he felt alone this weekend?  I believe 100% if Janelaze was there that he would still be alive.

Sunday night, 11pm seems to be a very convenient and lonely time to die.  I hope no one at the hospital would decide to turn the machines off.  Or that no one was paid to turn off any life support for Mr. Hunt. Maybe I watch too many detective tv shows in the US... but things like that do happen..  and it would be very convenient for Janelaze & Albert  to have Mr. Hunt no longer with us.

I am very saddened by this.. I really am..  We came home from Church and I turned on the computer while Maiza began was preparing our lunch.  She could hear I was sniffing.  And asked me if I was crying. And, why are you crying?  And I told her that Mr. Hunt died.  And now as I type that, I start crying again.

It is a real sad shame that this had to happen to such a good man.


-------- Original Message --------
Subject:  Tommy Hunt....GODSPEED!
Date:  Mon, 27 Apr 2009 08:19:13 +0800
From:  Daisy Cline
To:   Elmer Zink,  Tom Landry

Elmer and Tom,

I would like to believe in my heart that he died peacefully. The last time I visited him was last Thursday and I told him we love him very much and we are doing everything we can for him and asked him to hang
on... He gave me a positive sign by winking even it was too hard.

That night 10pm I told Aurea I will not be with them until Saturday as we have some last minute preparations for the wedding.  Sunday also is my Church and family day.....

Me too is lost!   Just have to convince myself that he is happy now and no more pain for him. I know the nurses in ICU took care of him.... and I'm sure he didn't die alone because Linda and Aurea took turns in being with him every night at the are designated for the watcher of the ICU patients....

I will be there today Elmer


-------- Original Message --------
Subject:  Re: Mr. Thomas Hunt
Date:  Sun, 26 Apr 2009 18:49:15 -0700 (PDT)
From:  Tom Landry
To:  Janelaze 

To all:

We are very sorry and saddened to hear of the passing of Tom. Our prayers are with Tom, his family and all those who loved and cared for Tom.

If there is anything further that we can do to assist, please let us know!

God bless you all!
Tom and Alicia


-------- Original Message --------
Subject: tom hurt
Date: Sun, 26 Apr 2009 19:54:51 -0700
From: robert rosenberg
To: Elmer Zink

Elmer

You did the best you could do.  I am sorry for what has happened and I give you a lot of credit for trying to help Mr Hurt.


-------- Original Message --------
Subject:  Re: Humble Contribution
Date:  Mon, 27 Apr 2009 19:11:11 +0800
From:  Daisy Cline
To:  Julia Gomintong

Hello Julia!

I'm sure by now you have read the news...just let me know what to do with your money....although we are still short of 8K pesos we don't want to just take it into ourselves to act anything without your advise since it can no longer be bought for medicine! This is an excerpt from my post in livingincebu forum.

I am too embarrass to accept this but yes we are........as posted, we've been borrowing the wedding budget we organized, and in the end we are short of Php8000.

OVER ALL TOTAL of MEDICINES PURCHASED AS OF APRIL 20, 2009............................................................95,048.70
TOTAL...............................................77,521.05 + ........200 dollars Php 9,560.00 total of............................... 87,081.05
at the moment because of my I "loan" the pledged donation as collateral we are still short of......................(7,967.65) (Php8000)

Janelaze Hunt promised to pay me/us in the future but we will not count on that even if she is in the US and we are just in the PI!


We received from a fellow Filipina (OFW) in Italy 5,800 pesos for medicine supposedly, we  will asked her what to do with her money. If she will donate it our organization then it will offset 5800 from what we owe.

I will just take this opportunity to announce that Expats' Ladies Charities, Inc. will no longer accept donations for Tommy Hunt.


-------- Original Message --------
Subject:  Re: Tommy Hunt....GODSPEED!
Date:  Mon, 27 Apr 2009 20:21:13 +0800
From:  Daisy Cline
To:   Elmer Zink, Tom Landry

Hello Everyone!

Tommy now lies at Cosmopolitan Funeral Homes, Cagayan de Oro City.  Up to the end, he was being taken cared by the family of his wife here in the Philippines.  Whatever shortcomings Janelaze may have had, I am assured that her mother and sister Aurea filled it up.

This afternoon when the five of us Jane, Janet, Laila, Jill and me arrived in the funeral homes, a cousin seemed to be antagonistic to us... don't know why but we are deeply hurt.  However I am content in knowing that we have done a lot more than her when it comes to helping Tommy.  Anyway, when Linda arrived the situation became calmer and less  emotional.

To Janelaze: Yan2 by her family, please let your relatives know that we are not in any way competing with anything about Tommy... When we will come to visit him every now and then that is because somehow we have learned to truly care for him and we are also mourning in our own simple ways!  It is not about how much time we were able to spend with him but on how he touched each of our lives.

 Let me tell you:  his demise will not be in vain because the Expats community in the Philippines are awaken and are now determine to set a FUND in time of crisis TOGETHER!  It is not a secret to you that there are times that I am very much dissappointed by your actions or lack of it but this does not deter me in including YOU in all my communications as regard to Tommy  because I strongly believe in the sanctity of marriage.

To all of us in this endeavor, we may have failed in our efforts to bring him back to US but somehow, in each of us we have learned SOMETHING that will sustain us in this lifetime! Nothing is accidental with the Lord...everything happens for a reason!

Looking at him today, I am assured he is happy and for the first time I saw him without pain in his face!!!!

GODSPEED Tommy!


-------- Original Message --------
Subject:  Mr. Hunt Pics
Date:  Mon, 27 Apr 2009 20:34:38 +0800 (SGT)
From:  Jneth Alvar
To:   Elmer Zink

Hi Elmer,
 
Daisy Cline, Jane Honeycutt, Lilah Macrea, Jill Uy and Me went this afternoon to visit Mr. Hunt lies in Cosmopolitan and it really breaks my/our hearts seeing him lies in the Cosmopolitan Funeral Home and at first I can't dare to see him inside his coffin but Daisy Cline assured me that Mr. Hunt's face was in peace and seemed well rested after the pain of struggle, so I gained guts to glance at him in his coffin but went
emotional and was so sad.
 
Anyhoo, I took a video of Mr. Hunt there in cosmopolitan and also have some pics of him inside his coffin.

We all moved in tears and well we maybe he is now beside GOD in heaven. i will send you the url/link after done uploading it in youtube.
 
GOD BLESS!
 
GODSPEED Tommy!...


-------- Original Message --------
Subject: Re: mr hunt pics in funeral
Date: Mon, 27 Apr 2009 08:52:36 -0600
From: William Britt Lewis
To:   Jneth Alvar

Jeaneth,

Thanks for sending us those pictures of Mr. Hunt. He certainly looks like he is resting in peace now.

Our sincere and heartfelt thanks to you, Lee and Daisy, Jane, Jil, Aurea, Linda, Nancy, Lilah and ALL there in CDO who assisted Mr. Hunt in his final earthly days. Please pass our appreciation for their efforts on to them.

Thomas Hunt, Happy Trails to you, Sir.

William and Mila


-------- Original Message --------
Subject:  Re: Mr. Thomas Hunt
Date:  Mon, 27 Apr 2009 20:46:02 -0700 (PDT)
From:  Laze Songcuya
To:  Tom Landry

All,
 
We just learned at today at 11:36 PM EST/USA that the VA will not assist with Toms burial in the Philippines since his death was not service connected. The most that they can is refund up to $600 USD with proper documentation for burial.
 
Also the Oversea's citizens services will only assist with getting his body back to the states not pay for it.
 
Albert


-------- Original Message --------
Subject:  The passing of Thomas Hunt
Date:  Mon, 27 Apr 2009 20:51:43 -0700
From:  Tom Landry
To:  Ted Hammon , Tara Smith

Ted and Tara:

My wife and I have been out of town since last Thursday and just returned home this evening.

On behalf of my wife and myself, I want to extend my condolences to you and your other family members for the loss of  Thomas  (Tommy) Hunt. 

Those of us from the CDO Ex-Pats Group and the others involved trying to assist him for the past 5-7 weeks certainly did not want his situation to turn out in this fashion. We had all really wanted and prayed that he would have recovered and been stabilized to return back to Arizona as he had desired. We recognize that the two of you and your family also desired that Tommy could have returned to Arizona and spent his last days with the family who loved him.

Even though we were strangers to Tommy and that some of us never met him, we are all at a loss and very saddened by his passing. Although Tommy is no longer with us physically, he is still in our hearts and prayers.  We know that he is no longer suffering on this earth and is at peace with God our Father in heaven.

Our thoughts and prayers are also with you and your family members.

God Bless Always!


-------- Original Message --------
Subject:  Re: Mr. Thomas Hunt
Date:  Mon, 27 Apr 2009 21:16:45 -0700
From:  Tom Landry
To:  Janelaze

Janelaze:

Thanks for this information.

We all know that Tommy's wishes were to return to the US and are sure that he would certainly like to be buried in Arizona. I am wondering if Tommy had any life insurance that that could be utilized in returning his body to to the US for proper burial. Have you contacted Social Security to see if they will assist with returning his body to the US for proper burial. Although the VA will not assist with the return of his body back to the US, I do know that the VA will provide him with a proper burial in a VA Cemetery.

I have no idea if Tommy had a Last Will in Testament or what his desires were in regards to his passing and (if he had any desire to be buried or cremated) or what the wishes of you or his other family members, but I would think that if you can not obtain the funds to have his body returned for burial in Arizona, that you might consider having his remains cremated and returned to Arizona for a burial in his homeland. I would like to think that the US Embassy in Manila may be able to provide you with assistance or guidance in returning his remains for proper burial.


-------- Original Message --------
Subject:  Re: Tommy Hunt....GODSPEED!
Date:  Mon, 27 Apr 2009 21:55:30 -0700
From:  Tom Landry

To:  Daisy Cline

Daisy, Jill, Jane, Liala and Jneth:

You ladies also filled a void in the life of Tommy Hunt at a time which he (as well all) needed support, kindness, caring and love the most. Alicia and I know that each of you have gone far beyond the call of duty and are very grateful for all of your time, efforts and support since becoming aware of Tommy's hospitalization. You ladies were a God send in the life of Tommy Hunt and we are very proud to be associated with you and to be your friends.

Elmer:

Alicia and I also want to thank you for all of your time and untiring efforts in support of Tommy.

We hope that we shall continue to remain in touch and remain life long friends!

God Bless each of you and your families!


-------- Original Message --------
Subject:  Re: Mr. Thomas Hunt
Date:  Mon, 27 Apr 2009 22:07:14 -0700 (PDT)
From:  Laze Songcuya
To:  Tom Landry

Tom,
 
To the best of my knowledge he did not have life insurance.
 
I spoke with the embassy and they can provide no assistance with
bringing his body home other than guidance.
 
Yes the VA will bury him in a cemetary here in the USA but does not
provide services to bring him home.

Albert Dermott


-------- Original Message --------
Subject:  Re: [Expats-in-Cagayan-de-Oro] Tommy Hunt....GODSPEED!
Date:  Tue, 28 Apr 2009 10:15:19 +0800
From:  Daisy Cline
To: Elmer Zink, Tom Landry

Hello!

Yesterday when we came to visit his wake, we knew from Linda that he was surrounded by Janelaze's family when he died. The nurses called them and let them stay besides him when he finally closed his eyes. 

There is no final arrangement for the burial yet but tentatively it will be on Saturday at Oro Gardens Memorial Park this according to Linda. His wake is done in a Filipino way so we will continue to assist Linda in any way we can.

The hospital released his body but will not give the death certificate unless all bills are paid. I believe that will be the concerned of Janelaze and Ted.

Jill has some pictures taken but I advised her not to post it online but if Janelaze want to see it..  I will forward it to her.


------- Original Message --------
Subject:  The passing of Thomas Hunt
Date: Tue, 28 Apr 2009 02:21:16 -0000
From: Stephen Dodge
To: Expats-in-Cagayan-de-Oro@yahoogroups.com

My thoughts on the passing of Thomas Hunt.


Now that Mr. Hunt has passed away, I can't help but think that he is now in a better place.  The 3 months he spent at Polymedic Hospital must have been pure hell for him.  Knowing that the love of his life, wife Janelaze, wasn't there at his bedside to offer comfort and support must have been a great disappointment to him.  Realizing that her promise to join him in CDO in a few weeks later once her Green Card was approved and never doing so must have made him realize that he had been betrayed. 

Its obvious that he appreciated the visits he received from various members of the ex-pat community, but the one person he really wanted to be there was never there.  I don't know how much info he was given about his wife's activities back in the States, but I hope most of it was withheld from him.  If he knew the whole story, I am sure it would have been more than he could bear.  As it stands, he obviously went to his grave with both a broken heart and a sense of betrayal.  How sad!  In my opinion, nobody deserves to die like that!

Some other thoughts I have. 

What's going to happen to his huge hospital bill at Polymedic?  Will it die with him?  If not, who will the hospital try and collect it from?  Janelaze?  her family in PI?  the VA?  the SSA?  I don't see how they can legally collect from anybody for a variety of reasons.  If my info is correct, he was well enough in February to be released but the hospital wouldn't do so until his bill was paid.  Is Polymedic now sorry they didn't just cut their losses and released him then?  If he later had to be hospitalized again, it's  possible he could have gone to a different hospital and they would be the ones owed the money, not Polymedic.

What will happen to Mr. Hunt's remains now?  Will he be returned to the U.S (where?), buried in P.I. (where?) and who will pay for it?  This is important for all of us to know because, who knows, what happened to Thomas Hunt could happen to us (God forbid!).  Having this info available to us will make it easier for our loved ones to make sure we are taken care of properly if we pass away here in P.I.  Any input anyone out there can provide would be greatly appreciated.

Final thought:  Rest in Peace, Thomas Hunt.  You deserved better.


-------- Original Message --------
Subject:  RE:The passing of Thomas Hunt
Date:  Tue, 28 Apr 2009 11:12:49 +0800
From:  Mike Farrell
To:  CDO <expats-in-cagayan-de-oro@yahoogroups.com>

Genesis. 

Scotty was at Polymedic for a routine physical. A doctor approached him and said there was a hospitalized kano who never had friends visit him in his two months in the hospital, and asked Scotty if he could help. Hunt was sleeping when Scotty looked in on him. Scotty, who was leaving PI the following day approached some of HIS friends at the Friday evening kano gathering at Spooks. The rest is history.
 
I wonder how things would have turned out if Hunt established friendships and had been part of the kano community before he was hospitalized. I can't help but believe that if he had friends visiting and assisting him from his first day of hospitalization, things would have been different.
 
Mike Farrell
Cagayan de Oro


-------- Original Message --------
Subject:  Re: Urgent Need for Thomas Hunt
Date:  Tue, 28 Apr 2009 02:21:01 -0700
From:  Tom Landry
To:  "Morphy"

The Murph:

This was a great e-mail. [referring to Morphy's post above, of Thu, 23 Apr 2009 21:38:04]

I apologize for not responding to this prior to now, but we were away since Thursday and I had issues with internet connections while traveling. I did receive some of these e-mails while traveling, but have just now been reading each of these.

It has been very unfortunate that we were not aware of Tom's situation when he was first hospitalized, as was stated by Mike Farrell,  with friends involved from the beginning this situation could have turned out different. It is unfortunate that he didn't join this organization when he first arrived in CDO.  It is also unfortunate that a Vet was not enrolled into the VA System and receiving assistance as he was entitled.

The Murph offered suggestions and his assistance on a couple of occasions regarding obtaining Tommy's DD214, applying for eligibility and applying for Service Related Disabilities. I am not sure if Janelaze requested a copy of the DD 214 or if one was found amongst his documents at Linda's house. I don't know if Ted was able to obtain a copy of that document.  Has Linda looked for this document? Have either Janelaze or Ted obtained this document? Has Janelaze formally applied for VA benefits and Service Related Disability??

There is still a possibility to help Tom with his VA benefits for transportation back to the US and burial  if you follow the Murph's suggestions below. You may not be able to pull it off, but I highly recommend that you make this one last burst of efforts to at least bring Tommy's body home and enable him a proper VA burial in a VA Cemetery in Arizona.

Janelaze needs to immediately contact the VA in Virginia, Hawaii and in Manila and submit a request for Service Related Disabilities. Janelaze needs to ensure the VA that Tom's death may have occurred from a Service Related Disability. That the Service Related Disability being Diabetes and that complications surrounding his hospitalization were responsible for his death.   Janelaze needs to request to expedite obtaining his DD214, Military Records and all Military Medical Records and Hospital Records from St.Louis . MO. These medical record need be evaluated by the VA or someone like the Murph to consolidate all medical and hospital records associated with his diabetes as well as any other ailment or injury he suffered in or aggravated while serving in the Military,   Tara Smith can also provide Tom's records from his physician in Yuma. Linda will have to obtain all of the doctor and hospital records and provide all of Tom's documents in their possession to  a willing volunteer American Ex-Pat in CDO to review these documents with Linda and assist with identification of all pertinent documents that they may need for submission to VA or be of benefit for the family such as SS documents, Medical/Medicare, supplemental insurance, travel insurance, life insurance, Last Will in Testament and any  documents that may be of use or personal to the family including Ted and Tara. These documents need to be consolidated and immediately provide them to the family and the Appropriate VA Representative that can immediately evaluate his records and render a decision on the acceptance of Service Related Disability  as well as a determinations that his death was related to a Service Related Disability.

This would entitle Tom's body to be returned to Arizona and receive a proper VA burial in a VA Cemetery where his family and friends can visit him.

Albert and Janelaze:

Please follow through with your newly established VA contacts make these calls today, Please call your contacts in DC, The VA in Hawaii and VA and US Embassy In Manila and let them know that you need their immediately assistance and cooperation please allow us to assist your Mom Linda in reviewing all of the documents that Thomas may have at her house. We can make copies of whatever is pertinent so that you will still have a copy of everything. We can make arrangements to consolidate all of the medical, hospital and personal records copy all of them and the fax and Fed Ex these documents to the appropriate VA Representative or family members. I am willing to pay for the cost of the copies and the fed-Ex costs. If you need Overseas Calling Cards, please let me know and I shall provide you with a couple. If you have not yet contacted Medicare/Medical and Social Security it may not be too late follow though and see if you can get him enrolled and to see if they will assist with any of the costs of hospital bill and transporting Tom's body back to Arizona. 

I hope and pray for Tom's sake that you will follow though and do everything that you can to return Tom's body back to Phoenix. If you would like the assistance of Elmer, The Murph or myself, just e-mail us off group ASAP.

If any one has any comments, desires to correct my understanding of the VA or has any suggestions to help return Tom's body back to Arizona, please feel free jump in.


-------- Original Message --------
Subject:  RE: Urgent Need for Thomas Hunt
Date:  Tue, 28 Apr 2009 09:29:29 -0700
From:  Richie, Kevin W <@va.gov>
To:  Tom Landry

As the Lead Patient Services Assistant here in the Pacific Islands Healthcare System I can assure you that Mr. Thomas Hunt was registered in the VA system that serves the Pacific Islands of Hawaii , Guam , and American Samoa as well as other US territories in the region.

I personally registered Mr. Hunt on April 21st after becoming aware of his situation from an e-mail forwarded to me by our Nurse Manager from Mr. Thomas Landry.

I am sad to learn of his passing. Although we do not have his DD-214 we were able to verify his service and I would be happy to forward documentation to any VA that needs it.


-------- Original Message --------
Subject: Re: The passing of Thomas Hunt
Date: Tue, 28 Apr 2009 11:37:46 -0000
From: Justin Arledge
To: Expats-in-Cagayan-de-Oro@yahoogroups.com

Daisy,

It is sad to hear about the fellow Arizonan dying in such a manner when such death it seems from the postings Ive read could have possibly been avoided only a few months back. Just goes to show how all the junk about the cheap and great healthcare that one reads about on other list isn't all its cracked up to be. Hopefully, This death can save others by making them head the warnings rather than listening to what is false advice.

For what its worth,  This fellows wife and the man she is shacked up with in America should both be ashamed of themselves. Does anyone know if legal action be taken against this adulterous tramp?


-------- Original Message --------
Subject: The passing
Date:  Wed, 29 Apr 2009 07:55:21 +0800
From:  Jill Uy
To:  <Expats-in-Cagayan-de-Oro@yahoogroups.com>

Ate Daisy,
 
Let me know if you and some of the expat ladies would like to go to cosmo as I will go with you and have 2 technicians  accompany us for our safety.


-------- Original Message --------
Subject:  Re: Urgent Need for Thomas Hunt
Date:  Tue, 28 Apr 2009 17:47:23 -0700
From:  Tom Landry
To:  Richie, Kevin W <@va.gov>

Kevin:

Thank you very much  for your assistance and this reply. After receipt of your e-mail last week to both myself and Albert Dermott that you had enrolled Mr. Hunt into the VA Pacific Islands Healthcare System, numerous efforts were made in attempt to contact the VA Clinic in Pasay City in the Philippines. Unfortunately none of the efforts to contact the VA Clinic  on any of their phone numbers were successful.

As you are aware, Thomas Hunt passed away over the weekend. At this time the family would like to have Mr. Hunts body returned to the US for burial in a VA Cemetery in Arizona. Albert Dermot advised last night that that the VA will not assist in returning his body to the US unless his death was service related.  I am not sure of the actual cause of death as the Hospital shall not provide a Death Certificate until his hospital bill is paid in full. Is it too late for the family to apply for Service Related Disability (Diabetes) and to demonstrate that he was originally hospitalized in the Philippines as a result of the Diabetes?

Is there any assistance that the VA  can provide to the family to return either Mr. Hunt's Body or perhaps his ashes to Arizona for proper burial in a VA Cemetery in Arizona? If so can you please provide the names and contact information so that the family can immediately make contact and try to make arrangements?


-------- Original Message --------
Subject: Re: Urgent Need for Thomas Hunt
Date: Wed, 29 Apr 2009 01:43:51 -0000
From: leecline06
To: Expats-in-Cagayan-de-Oro@yahoogroups.com

Tom,

I think the family of Janelaze here has already plan to bury him on Saturday at Oro Gardens Memorial Park.

Aurea explicitly told me that we are just duplicating what  they have been doing already as regard to VA thing so we might as well let them do it themselves.

They don't appreciate what we are doing because they think we are over stepping them...they even have a lawyer to do it.  We have done enough! Tommy Hunt wherever he is, understands where I am coming from.

Daisy


-------- Original Message --------
Subject: [Expats-in-Cagayan-de-Oro] Burial of Thomas Hunt
Date: Tue, 28 Apr 2009 21:48:32 -0500
From: Elmer
To:  Daisy Cline,  Janelaze Songcuya Hunt, Ted Hammon , Tara Smith,
Pastor Glenn Connell   

Daisy,

I can understand your frustration.  But, I think we should continue to try to bring Tommy back home to Yuma.

Despite what the family is doing, I thought the discussion between Ted, Janelaze, Albert, Tom, and everyone else, outside of the Songcuya family in CDO, was to bring Tommy home and bury him next in the
Veteran's Cemetery in Yuma, Arizona.

I think Tommy deserves that.  I think Janelaze should guarantee that happens. It is the lest she could do considering everything else.  I think the man needs to be given some respect and have him buried in
the Veteran's Cemetery in Yuma.

I am asking everyone from Cagayn de Oro City, to Yuma, Arizona to  Fairfax, Virginia to pull together and give this man the burial he deserves.  Yuma was his home. It should be his final resting place.


-------- Original Message --------
Subject: Lesson to learn!
Date: Wed, 29 Apr 2009 09:28:05 -0000
From: daisy
To: Expats-in-Cagayan-de-Oro@yahoogroups.com

After all we have done for Tommy, we might end up facing a legal battle against those accusing us making money out of Mr. Hunt( We the Expats Ladies Charities Inc ). Today we were thrown out from the wake of Tommy Hunt to the extent of calling out the security guard to lead us out like criminals and pigs.

A certain Aunt of Janelaze Hunt who is working as a clerk of court in the hall of Justice in CDO have accused us also making money out of Mr. Hunt.  And added that they don't need us, neither our help and moral support because its all their concern, not ours ( of course ).

They called the security guard to threw us out of the funeral parlor naming as names that nobody has ever called any of us.  What an experience!   Now, this person who was accusing us told us that they will sue the organization and questioned our legalities.  She seemed so serious in her threats.  As a result of these threats we spoke with an attorney today.

The organization in the first place wanted to finish what we have started since the sponsors who donated for Mr.Hunt's medications wanted to be updated.

Be it known to any persons that this organization was formally and officially created in one purpose only to reach out to our less fortunate brethren.  We were all inspired to make this organization possible after the successful feeding program spearheaded by the organization last December for all of you who may recall.

Regarding the Mr.Hunt issue, we just came to the funeral parlor to gave respect and know the further details of the interment but we didn't expect the reaction we got.  SURELY WE DON'T DESERVE IT!

For now, we are waiting for the case that the woman was talking about that she will file against us, ( EXPATS' LADIES CHARITIES ORGANIZATION).

We all thought that now that Tommy is deceased the situation would be over but it seems it is just the start of the battle the organization will be facing.

We all have the documents and official receipts to support what has been posted in various forums.

What happened will not stop the organization to stop caring and for reaching out.  May the good Lord bless us in all endeavors and good luck to us girls.


-------- Original Message --------
Subject:Re: Lesson to learn!
Date: Wed, 29 Apr 2009 10:45:35 -0000
From: C T
To: Expats-in-Cagayan-de-Oro@yahoogroups.com

Daisy,

What a shame to hear of such actions, especially at that location and at that time.

I am positive if they politely asked your group to leave, you would have without all the dramatics.

I bet, that family could be also sued for neglect in their treatment of Mr. Hunt prior to your collective involvment.

Rest assured, Nancy and I will be with you with donations, if needed.

Be strong, no need to account to them in any way.  All the donations were made to the Expats Ladies group, to use as they saw fit.  If you are ordered to give aaccounting, they should also.

In short, don't give them anything, just give the court those documents, if so ordered and after advised by any attorney you retain.

Also, let them know, you and your group can also sue.

God Bless you, Daisy,

Nancy and CT Dunn


-------- Original Message --------
Subject:  RE: Lesson to learn!
Date:  Wed, 29 Apr 2009 19:23:09 +0800
From:  Mike Farrell
To:  CDO <expats-in-cagayan-de-oro@yahoogroups.com>

Daisy, what you are witnessing is the maxim that the best defense is a good offense.  Hit THEM first and keep them off-balance is the best defense.
 
On several of the boards/groups discussing this issue, questions arose concerning Hunt's money, wife's  internet photos, boyfriend search, present boyfriend, why is she there and not here, etc. etc. etc.
 
Rather than dealing with those questions, they put YOU on the defensive.
 
Don't run, don't hide.  Your attitude should be: "Let's go for it.  I'll answer your questions in court, you answer mine.  The most minor of the charges I will bring up against you is deformation of character.  All you have to do is prove your allegations, in court, and we'll start from there."
 
(As an aside, I'll front the money for your attorney.  When I do that, there's no turning back.  I will consider it an investment they will pay dearly for.)


-------- Original Message --------
Subject: Re: Lesson to learn!
Date: Wed, 29 Apr 2009 11:54:37 -0000
From: daisy
To: Expats-in-Cagayan-de-Oro@yahoogroups.com

Yes, I know as well as some expats' ladies who are with me on this that we have nothing to be afraid of.... but this traumatic and depressing experience we just have had is  far beyond our thinking!

Their actions hurts just like a double edge knife but we will surely get over with this.... trials are meant to teach us lessons! 

Thanks for the support!  For sure we need it!


-------- Original Message --------
Subject:  Re:  Re: Lesson to learn!
Date:  Wed, 29 Apr 2009 05:20:01 -0700 (PDT)
From:  Mike Belter
To:  Expats-in-Cagayan-de-Oro@yahoogroups.com

Daisy,

   Don't let them get to you. The Ladies Charity did a great job and went above and beyond.  It's sad that one family member woudl act that way at this point.  I wonder if she is feeling the shame of inaction on her part and unleashing it out on you.

   I will donate to the legal fund if it is needed as well.


-------- Original Message --------
Subject:  Re: Lesson to learn!
Date:  Wed, 29 Apr 2009 11:23:41 -0700
From:  Tom Landry
To:  Expats-in-Cagayan-de-Oro
CC:  Laze Songcuya, Albert Dermott

Daisy:

I am very sorry to hear of the treatment that you ladies received at the Wake of Tom Hunt.   It is really a shame that this occurred at all, not to mention at Tom's wake.

Excuse my language but who in the hell are these relatives and where have they been for the past 4 months?  What did they ever do to assist Tom Hunt when he needed their help?

This really demonstrates what kind of people this family is.

The treatment that you ladies were subjected to is a shame.  God knows that the efforts of everyone involved were a result of your good hearts and unselfish efforts to support a man in his time of need.

If it were not for you ladies Tom would not have had the medication that he needed, probably would not have lasted as long as he did and probably would have suffered more in his last days.

I doubt that this aunt of Janelaze will do anything more than make the noise that she has.  After all she didn't make any effort to assist Tom Hunt in his time of need.  However, I am very confident that the same people who provided financial assistance for Tom's medicine will also stand up for you ladies and if necessary provide you ladies with any legal assistance that may be needed against any false legal actions of this family.  Just keep us posted!

Thanks again to you and all of the ladies for all of your efforts and assistance of Tom Hunt!

God Bless you always!!


-------- Original Message --------
Subject:  Re: [Expats-in-Cagayan-de-Oro] Re: Urgent Need for Thomas Hunt
Date:  Wed, 29 Apr 2009 12:10:33 -0700
From:  Tom Landry
To:  Daisy Cline, Elmer Zink
CC:  Ted Hammon, Tara Smith

Daisy:

While I was traveling on business last week, I was having issues with my e-mail.  I just realized I have 350 e-mails in my "Junk" e-mail and just noticed this e-mail.

 It is none of my business where Tom Hunt is laid to rest, I just have a hard time believing that Ted, Tara and the other friends and family members of Tom in the US would want him buried in CDO.  Perhaps I am wrong or they just do not have any say in the matter.  I shall not make any further efforts or send any further e-mails to enquire of assistance to return Tom's body or remains to the US.

If Ted, Tara or other family members desire that Tom's body or remains be returned to the US, then I guess that they would get involved to ask for our assistance and the assistance of other organizations.  I am sure that there are things that could be done to return Tom's body or remains to the US if they so desire.

I am just very surprised how fast the family of Janelaze moved to burry Tom in CDO.  It appears to me that when all of our efforts were to assist Tom in his recovery and hopeful return to the US, that the family  were already making plans for his burial in CDO.  What a shame.


-------- Original Message --------
Subject:  The Mr. Hunt Saga - Albert Wants to 'Get Down'
Date: Wed, 29 Apr 2009 17:35:01 -0400
From:  Albert Dermott
To: Expats-in-Cagayan-de-Oro@yahoogroups.com

[MODERATOR'S NOTE:] Albert - ya gotta be kidding. Instead of putting this fiasco to bed - you wanna "Get Down'?
Note: not sure if 'getting down' means the method of bending over to poop during military field training, or an Ebonics expression for 'let's have a fight' ( http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/African_American_Vernacular_English)
Either one is pretty stupid - and almost guaranteed to taint reputations and memories... maybe even careers.
If others are interested in "Getting Down" - suggest you add this little communications jewel to your portfollio. What a DUH!
_________________________________
[Albert's Post]
Chris,

My contacts are still in place and my skils are sharp as ever. Well trained by the United States Army and other DOD groups!

I am here in the good old United States of America and we can get busy!

Or if you wish I can have certain assets who I have worked with in the Philippines get busy.

Either way I will get down!

What's up kid?

Albert


-------- Original Message --------
Subject:  Mike B's Post RE: The Mr. Hunt Saga - Albert Wants to 'Get Down'
Date:  Wed, 29 Apr 2009 15:39:59 -0700 (PDT)
From:  Ron in Philippines
To:  Expats-in-Cagayan-de-Oro@yahoogroups.com


I don't know Mike - but the whole thing just sounds stupid to me. Law suites are an enormous waste of energy - money and time. Typically, the only 'winners' are the various attorneys.
 
That is unless Albert and "his agents" are contemplating 'extra judicial' alternatives against some Filipinas who spent days of their life trying to help a sick, stranded American. Just really dumb.
 
If there really is a "defense contractor" (???) - ya gotta wonder what the US DOD would think about the prudence of one of it's 'contractors and his agents' - sending communications of the sort Albert did via a public forum.
 
Maybe someone should write and ask the DOD's Legal Counsel for their opinion.


-------- Original Message --------
Subject:  Re: Urgent Need for Thomas Hunt
Date:  Wed, 29 Apr 2009 19:31:55 -0700 (PDT)
From:  Laze Songcuya
To: Expats-in-Cagayan-de-Oro@yahoogroups.com

All,
 
I Am Begging you to help me for Toms funeral. I dont have anything to do of what happen which my family do to the Expat right now all im doing for now is focusing to the burial of my husband Thomas J. Hunt coz things was really tough. I just recieve some check to my 2 friends from California 100$ then 50$.
 
Then to my employer 300$ which will be here next week so hopefully u all understand my grieve right now.
 
I am contacting Ate Daisy Cline and i told her that i did not done anything for what my family do. I know Expat was doing everything for Thomas J. Hunt I apologize to them heartily of what my family do to them all i am doing right now is to have my husband nice funeral.
 
Hoping for your Kind Consideration!
 
Thanks,
Janelaze Hunt


-------- Original Message --------
Subject:  Appology for how anyone was treated at Thomas Hunts wake
Date: Wed, 29 Apr 2009 22:41:19 -0400
From: Albert Dermott
To: Expats-in-Cagayan-de-Oro@yahoogroups.com

All,

Both myself and Janelaze would like to take this opportunity to apologize for how you at Mr. Hunt's wake.

We both know how much you did for Mr. Hunt and we both feel that how you were treated is unexcusable. No matter what anyones feeling towards the other maybe, you people did assist emotionally and did provide medications when you could. It was plain wrong for anyone to have you escorted out of the wake because simply put your actions did extend his life.

Again we appologize for how you were treated.

We also have noticed quite a few comments about the family taking legal action. We are not aware of this but will get to the bottom of it. Janelaze is going to be calling her sister shortly to find out what this is all about. Please rest assured that we will get to the bottom of this a try to put an end to that nonsense.

Thank you for all you've done,
Albert Dermott & Janelaze Hunt


-------- Original Message --------
Subject: Re: Urgent Need for Thomas Hunt
Date:  Wed, 29 Apr 2009 19:50:17 -0700
From:  Tom Landry
To:  Ted Hammon, Tara Smith

Ted and Tara:

I understand that you are both grieving the loss of your relative Thomas Hunt. We have assumed that you have been communicating with Janelaze/Albert regarding where Tom will be buried (Philippines or US).

Please be aware of the treatment that Daisy and the other ladies of her charity organization experienced by Janelaze's family members the two times that they visited the Mortuary and Wake. They were terribly bad mouthed on both occasions and escorted out of the wake and told to leave the family and Tom alone, that legal action was being taken against them and their organization. Although we have no concerns over any legal accusations, it is hard to be of further assistance when people gladly take advantage of your time, efforts, money and then treat you like a criminal only then to again ask for assistance with money.

After receiving this e-mail from Janelaze, I need to ask you what you would like for us to do to assist with the burial of Tom Hunt in CDO or assist you in any other manner to return Tom's body or remains to the US for a VA Burial?

Please advise.

Thanks much!


-------- Original Message --------
Subject: Re:  Lesson to learn!
Date: Wed, 29 Apr 2009 21:57:41 -0500
From: Elmer Zink
To: Expats-in-Cagayan-de-Oro@yahoogroups.com

Daisy,

I am sorry to read of this that happened to you.  So sad.

They virtually left him alone in the hospital from January until the  Expats and your group became involved in March.  And they do not  appreciate the work that you and the other women have done?

What would have happened if the doctor would not have talked to Scotty  back on March 9th?  Right.  None of us would have never known of  Tommy. And it is thanks to you, and the Expats Ldies Charities, that  Tommy was able to live for the extra month and a half that he did.

Janelaze family may not appreciate what you all have done. But, I  guarantee that Tommy appreciated and loved you all.  He knew who truly  loved him and cared for him... The women of the Expats Ladies  Charities..

Don't ever change the person you are, Daisy. And don't worry of those  threats form Janelaze aunt.

 
-------- Original Message --------
Subject:  Re: Urgent Need for Thomas Hunt
Date: Wed, 29 Apr 2009 22:35:56 -0500
From:  Elmer Zink
To: Janelaze Songcuya

Janelaze,

It is all of us, and Daisy, and Jneth, and all the other women of  Expats Ladies Chariities...  that have been nothing but very kind and  considerate for the 7 weeks plus, in helping your husband...

It is us who are grieving for your husband.  WE are hoping you bring  Tommy home.


-------- Original Message --------
Subject:  Re: Urgent Need for Thomas Hunt
Date: Wed, 29 Apr 2009 22:43:56 -0500
From:  Elmer Zink
To:  Albert Dermott

Albert,

As it has been established that Tommy wanted to come home to Yuma.

And seeing that his parents are buried in the VA Cemetery, on Cave  Creek Rd, north of Phoenix.  And since that is where Ted and Tara want  to have him buried..  that should be where Tommy should be buried.

I was in error in prior emails referring to the VA cemetery in Yuma..  it is actually north of Phoenix.


-------- Original Message --------
Subject:  Re: Urgent Need for Thomas Hunt
Date:  Thu, 30 Apr 2009 00:14:15 -0400 (PDT)
From:  Albert Dermott
To:  Elmer Zink

Elmer,
 
I know that already and also since I a veteran I am a true believer in laying a VET to rest with other VETS and even more so if the person has family there.
 
The issue is coming up with the money to bring Mr. Hunt's body back to the States.
 
Now I have read a bunch of comments about people getting sued and that is for the birds. I know that varous people have assisted in providing funds for his medical care and also emotional support. It was just plain wrong to have them leave the wake and I know for a fact that Janelaze is going to question them about this.


-------- Original Message --------
Subject:  Re: Urgent Need for Thomas Hunt
Date:  Wed, 29 Apr 2009 22:18:08 -0700
From:  Tom Landry
To:  Albert Dermott

Albert:

A public apology by the Aunt of Janelaze and the other family members to Daisy and the ladies of her organization would be appropriate. They could go to Spooks tomorrow night (Friday night).

I am really happy to hear that you believe a Vet should be returned home and buried honorably. It really appears that there was a very fast decision made to burry Tom in CDO. Did Janelaze or you consult with Ted or Tara before this decision was made?

It appeared that Janelaze was requesting financial assistance to burry Tom in CDO. What is the estimated cost and how much is needed?

Do you know what the cost is to have Tom Hunt's body or remains returned to Phoenix?

You may find that those who assisted Tom in the last few months, may be willing to further assist to return his body to Phoenix or for him to be buried in CDO, if we knew that we were assisting with the desires of Ted and Tara.


-------- Original Message --------
Subject: Re: Urgent Need for Thomas Hunt
Date: Wed, 29 Apr 2009 23:18:51 -0600
From:  William Britt Lewis 
To:  Albert Dermott

Albert and All,

Could you tell us what kind of costs are associated with getting Mr. Hunt back to Phoenix for VA burial?

I have not heard it said that it was his wish to be interred anywhere.  Did he make any financial or other provisions for burial or cremation in his Last Will and Testament?

Did he ever purchase a grave plot or make any plans towards that inevitable day when we all pass away?

I ask these questions because from what has been communicated thus far I see no mention of any prior planning.  If that is the case, then perhaps it was not important to Mr. Hunt with regard to what happens with his remains.

I don't mean to be unkind or insensitive to other's feelings, but in the absence of Mr. Hunt planning ahead, it appears to me that a Philippine graveyard might be quite satisfactory to him.

If anyone actually knows what his internment wishes were, now would be the time to inform us all.

Sorry if I offended anyone, but how can we help honor his wishes if we don't know what they were?


-------- Original Message --------
Subject:  Re:  Urgent Need for Thomas Hunt
Date:  Wed, 29 Apr 2009 22:51:36 -0700
From:  Tom Landry
To:  Expats-in-Cagayan-de-Oro@yahoogroups.com

William:

Tommy's male cousin advised me that he was certain that Tommy had all of his important documents with him in CDO and believed that he probably had a Last Will and Testament. However,  for about two months we have asked about Tommy's documentation that is being held by the mother (Linda) of Janelaze and we have never been afforded the opportunity to review these documents with Linda.

We all know that it was Tommy's desire to return to Arizona when he was alive in the hospital.  I have been advised that it is the desire of Tommy's family in Arizona (step-son, two cousins and one sister) that his remains (body or ashes) be returned to Phoenix and buried in the same VA Cemetery that Elmer has advised.

If we knew what he cost is to transport either his body or ashes I am more than willing to donate the $200.00 that I sent on Friday intended for his medication towards accommodate returning Tommy's remains to Phoenix.


-------- Original Message --------
Subject:  RE: Urgent Need for Thomas Hunt
Date:  Thu, 30 Apr 2009 14:12:45 +0800
From:  Mike Farrell
To: Tom Landry

I hate to be a contrarian. (Actually, that's a role I generally find myself in, and one I feel well suited for.) No one asked for my opinion, but I'll give it anyway.
 
Daisy and her concerned help-mates have taken flack from day one, up to and including the inability for them to offer their respects at the wake.
 
Daisy and crew took on a herculean task, to ensure the preservation of Tom Hunt's life. Nature had other plans.  Daisy's thankless job (as far as the "family" goes) is finished.  
 
Therefore the future of Tom Hunt's remains should be solely left up to the widow, her boyfriend, her family in CDO, and Tom's family in the US.
 
Daisy, et al, should save their energies and concerns for another cause, where better results could be attained and most definitely be more honestly, and less hypocritically, appreciated.
 
Outstanding medical bills, burial costs, transportation costs, and ALL decisions should be left to his and her families. Let the US and CDO families  take over, and keep Daisy out of it. It is THEY who will have to live with the results of their actions and decisions.


-------- Original Message --------
Subject:  Re: Urgent Need for Thomas Hunt
Date:  Wed, 29 Apr 2009 23:55:54 -0700 (PDT)
From:  Albert Dermott
To:  Tom Landry

Tom,
 
The answers to your question are in bold lettering below next to the questions.
 
Albert

Albert:
A public apology by the Aunt of Janelaze and the other family members to Daisy and the ladies of her organization would be appropriate. They could go to Spooks tomorrow night (Friday night).
I have no control over that happening and while it is certainly appropiate it is doubtful that it will happen.

I am really happy to hear that you believe a Vet should be returned home and buried honorably. It really appears that there was a very fast decision made to burry Tom in CDO. Did Janelaze or you consult with Ted or Tara before this decision was made?
I spoke with Ted myself and he stated that he would like to see Mr. Hunt buried at a place called Cave Creek. I thinkhe mentioned that it was where family was buried.

It appeared that Janelaze was requesting financial assistance to burry Tom in CDO. What is the estimated cost and how much is needed?
I am not sure if she requested assistance but will ask her tomorrow when I see her. I also know that she has gotten a couple of hundred dollars from some friends and is expecting a couple hundred more.

Do you know what the cost is to have Tom Hunt's body or remains returned to Phoenix?
I don't know the total amont needed but will find out and let you know tomorrow.

You may find that those who assisted Tom in the last few months, may be willing to further assist to return his body to Phoenix or for him to be buried in CDO, if we knew that we were assisting with the desires of Ted and Tara.
Ted expressed interest in a burial at Cave Creek but I do not know what Tara wishes the 1 time that I spook to her she was kind of rude to me and didn't want to listen to me since she thought I was asking her for money. I tried to explain to her that I wasn't asking for money only giving her an update on Mr. Hunt but she wouldn't listen so I did not bother to get her opinion.


-------- Original Message --------
Subject:  Re: Urgent Need for Thomas Hunt
Date:  Thu, 30 Apr 2009 00:08:34 -0700 (PDT)
From: Albert Dermott
To:  William Britt Lewis

William,
 
The answers to your question are in bold text below your questions.
 
Albert

Albert and All,

Could you tell us what kind of costs are associated with getting Mr. Hunt back to Phoenix for VA burial?
I will get this information to you today. I will send you exact numbers and contact information of who I speak with.

I have not heard it said that it was his wish to be interred anywhere.
I never heard that from him so I can only give you what I was told. Janelaze told me that he did not care where he was buried. But she does want him buried someplace that he will be visited. Ted Hammon stated that he would like him at Cave Creek in Arizona. My personal opinion is that he go to a VA cemetary so that he will lay with other soldiers and not foreign people in a foreign land.

Did he make any financial or other provisions for burial or cremation in his Last Will and Testament?
To the best of my knowldge there was no will.

Did he ever purchase a grave plot or make any plans towards that inevitable day when we all pass away?
To the best of my knowledge there is no plot and according to Janelaze there is no life insurance.

I ask these questions because from what has been communicated thus far I see no mention of any prior planning. If that is the case, then perhaps it was not important to Mr. Hunt with regard to what happens with his remains.
That may be very well true.


-------- Original Message --------
Subject:  Urgent Need to Assist the return of Tom Hunt's Remains to Phoenix
Date:  Thu, 30 Apr 2009 00:32:10 -0700
From:  Tom Landry
To:  Expats-in-Cagayan-de-Oro@yahoogroups.com

Mike:

I agree with you that Daisy and the other ladies have done so much and been treated so poorly that they should not be asked to assist any further.

Albert/Janelaze:

If Janelaze will agree to relinquish authority and give Ted Hammond the Power of Attorney, Ted could take the lead with assistance from myself and Elmer, we can immediately look into the costs and requirements necessary to return Tom's Body or Ashes back to Arizona for burial in a VA Cemetery in Arizona. Ted can obtain the information and make the arrangements with the VA Cemetery.

 I am willing to fly to CDO and escort his body or hand carry his ashes back to Phoenix and coordinate the burial with Tom's family.

I suggest that we immediacy identify the costs, requirements to return his body  via commercial air with Philippine Airlines or if anyone has miles they want to donate we can look at that carrier also for costs of transporting a body vs, ashes. My wife is booked to fly to CDO the third week of May, I could possibly change my plans and leave before then. I would volunteer to deal with whatever obstacles that may be required and arrange for the Transportation of his body or make arrangements for his remains to be cremated and placed in an urn that I would hand carry back to Phoenix.

Kevin Ritchie:

Perhaps that you can forward the enrollment documentation and whatever else the VA Cemetery in Phoenix would need to approve Thomas Hunt for burial.

It was my understanding that a Vet was entitled to up to $10,000.00 for Burial expenses. However, I can not find this information on the VA Website. Can you provide feedback on VA Burial Allowances and advise if Tom Hunt is eligible, and what needs be provided to the VA to get this going?


-------- Original Message --------
Subject: Re: Urgent Need for Thomas Hunt
Date: Thu, 30 Apr 2009 03:57:38 -0400
From:  Elmer Zink
To: Expats-in-Cagayan-de-Oro@yahoogroups.com

Tom, William, and Albert,

Perhaps the search for information could start with the VA website for  cemetery.  That would be the National Memorial Cemetery of Arizona.

Here is the website: http://www.cem.va.gov/CEMs/nchp/nmca.asp

His father, Thomasa R. Hunt was buried in Plot: 4D 0 D148, bur. 10/21/1996
(Hunt, Thomas R, b. 01/10/1916, d. 10/12/1996, US Navy, F1, Res:  Phoenix, AZ, Plot: 4D 0 D148, bur. 10/21/1996)
Virginia R. Hunt was also buried in the same plot.

VA will provide the Burial flag, Headstone or Marker, and the  Presidential Memorial Certificate


-------- Original Message --------
Subject: Re: Urgent Need to Assist the return of Tom Hunt's Remains to Phoenix
Date: Thu, 30 Apr 2009 04:07:28 -0400
From:  Elmer Zink
To: Tom Landry

Tom,

This is one incredible email. What wonderful people I have been  associated with in trying to save Thomas Hunt, but now in an effort to  give him an honorable and respectful burial at a Veteran's cemetery in the United States.

I can't even think or type what I want to say here, I have been so  moved to tears by your remarks and offer.

Albert & Janelaze this is a tremendous offer.


-------- Original Message --------
Subject: Re: Urgent Need for Thomas Hunt
Date: Thu, 30 Apr 2009 01:15:29 -0700
From: Tom Landry
To: Elmer Zink

Elmer:

If Kevin Ritchie from the VA in Hawaii will send his registration of Thomas into the VA Program in Hawaii and proof of his service and honorable discharge and provide this to the VA Cemetery (reflected below) and Ted
Hammond with this same information, then ted should not have a problem dealing with the VA Cemetery.

We should check on PAL to see what arrangements must be made as well as their requirements and the costs associated with transportation of his body or ashes back to Phoenix.

I assume that we will also need a copy of the Death Certificate, but the statement that I read said that the hospital will not release the Certificate of Death without the hospital bill paid in full. This again does not sound legal and we need to look into this.

We would also need to look into the cost of the mortuary, casket and also look into the cost of cremation and an Urn.

My wife is on the phone with her mom and asking her to look into the costs of cremation and Urn.

Albert:

Perhaps you can have Janelaze speak to her family now and find out the total costs with a break down of the funeral home costs, casket, storage ect...


-------- Original Message --------
Subject: Re: Urgent Need to Assist the return of Tom Hunt's Remains to Phoenix
Date: Thu, 30 Apr 2009 02:08:01 -0700
From: Tom Landry
To: Elmer Zink

Elmer:

My wife and I just got off the phone with family and friends in CDO. We asked my mother-in-law to check on the costs of cremation and a Urn.

As my wife previously worked for the CDO City Hall she called her old boss who is the City Secretary. I have known him for five years and get together with him whenever we are in CDO.

I spoke with him and explained the situation, I asked him if it is legal to NOT release a death certificate without payment to the hospital. He said that tomorrow he shall meet with the CDO Civil Registrar Office and advise what they can do.

He also advised me that there is not a crematory in CDO, but believes that Cosmopolitan Mortuary has another branch in Cebu that does cremations. Therefore, if we have to go down that route, I would take a ferry from CDO to Cebu to have his body cremated and then return to CDO with his Ashes.

Albert:

We need to know if Janelaze is willing to give Ted Power of Attorney and work with us to return Tom's body or ashes to Phoenix for proper burial in the VA Cemetery.

We also need to to know the cost of transporting Tom's Body or Ashes back to Phoenix, the costs of the Funeral home, casket, etc.. and confirm if the Cosmopolitan Funeral Home in CDO could arrange and advise of the cost of cremation.

Lets do some further research in the next few hours and see what we can do.


-------- Original Message --------
Subject:  Re: Urgent Need to Assist the return of Tom Hunt's Remains to Phoenix
Date: Thu, 30 Apr 2009 04:42:48 -0500
From:  Elmer Zink
To: Tom Landry

Tom,

According to the Manila Embassy website it would cost about $4500 for  embalming and shipment of the casket and body from Manila to the United States.

http://manila.usembassy.gov/wwwha019.html

The website also gives other a lot of necessary information regarding the process of of death of a US citizen and returning of the body to the United States.  They also recommend the use of Cosmopolitan Funeral Homes.

Here is the Cosmopolitan Website. http://cosmofuneral.com/location.html

The site doesn't give a lot of information.. but does give location and a lot of nice photos of the funeral home.

Also, everyone should note that Friday is a Philippine Holiday, (Labor  Day), so the US Embassy and Philippine Government Offices will be closed.


-------- Original Message --------
Subject: Re: Lesson to learn!
Date: Thu, 30 Apr 2009 11:01:19 -0000
From: Daisy Cline
To: Expats-in-Cagayan-de-Oro@yahoogroups.com

Thank you so much for the support we received from all of you here  and for believing these bunch of Expats' Ladies a chance to be of service and making a difference. How could we not keep going with such tremendous support and encouragement!

I am always ready to give Janelaze a total benefit of the doubt and with open heart in behalf of Janeth, Jill, Laila, Jane and Missy, APOLOGIES ACCEPTED.

As for that Aunt whoever she is, I will not step down to her level by even considering  hearing an apology from her. First and foremost she does not know anything what she is talking about and if granted she knows, her own version obviously does not go with the majority. Besides, God does not made the earth round for nothing.

With this, I would like to ask everyone to please continue what we have started in doing what is BEST for Tommy Hunt. I made that promise to him while he was still in his hospital room ICU bed.

Yes, we will not be doing anything at this point except to offer our prayers and moral support for those who truly care and love him.

Again, thank you.


-------- Original message --------
Subject: RE: Urgent Need for Thomas Hunt
Date: Thu, 30 Apr 2009 23:12:57 +1200
From: morphy
To: Tom Landry, Albert Dermott, Janelaze Songcuya

I agree with William and Mike on this one and a most others.

I like Mike and most other Vets who have served our country might think it strange to not to be too worried about where ones remains are going to be buried... No one is sure what exactly what the wishes of Mr. Hunt with maybe the exception of Tom who said something about a creek in Arizona. I see nothing wrong if a man has no preference where he gets buried, for a funeral with the exception of a veterans funeral is only for the living and never about the dead. 

The group, the ones who are "real" and not gold digging, conniving con artist have worked their hearts and souls out for this dying man who was headed that way it looked like from the beginning,

I wrote a letter to this group begging them to help daisy all they could to do what they could do but stay focus on a prize, that prize being getting some how the meds Tom needed on a day to day basis.

Daisy has taken all the abuse she needs to take, your own culture has treated her like a reject when all here and there and her husband were trying to do was keep a dying man alive.

Mike had done all that he should, probably not all that he wants for I know him he Is my brother and shall always remain one so we carry this special bond that none of you can quit comprehend.

Tom Laundry has done his part. The rest should be left up to Mr. Hunt's wife and stepson. The rest of the CDO group have done their part, but I will offer you one last suggestion.  You rejected and turned a deaf ear to my words, and I have no doubt your ears will fall death again on my now statements.

Let his wife come here, let her call me arrange to meet me in CDO although I cannot travel well I will if alive be there, bring with you all the paperwork, your attorney, your husbands will if there was one, All documents
from the hospital and all documents from the VA showing me where he was ever treated or cared in any VA outpatient clinic or in Hospital VA according and listed under Chapter 38 US Code.

If there is no provision made for you in the will or there is no way, for I don't know your age so I don't know if you're entitled to Mr. Hunts Social Security Pension yet, if nothing is going to you then I will bring with me
at this meeting a representative from the VA Social Security Office and the Departments of Veterans Affairs both located at the US Embassy In Manila. I am not sure we will not have to see a consulate there,

If you're willing to pay for the cost for the VA and Social Security to meet us in CDO on your own turn then I will do so, but I don't think they will be agreeable. If you need I probably can get you a discount at the Swagman Hotel right across the street for a discounted price if you call soon enough.

I don't know if this is all a "ruse" or a real act of fraud and infractions of the both State and Federal Laws I think you all are up to.  And you have the unmitigated gall to say, or someone in your family does, they are going to "sue the group at CDO"

But if wrong, here is my grant to you, know the difference between a grant and a loan, a grant is a gift, never has to be paid back, If after getting approval from all the proper authorities in the Philippines and after
conferring with both SS and the VA at the US embassy and they all tell me in lock step that I misjudged you, and you are now the sole beneficiary of your husbands' estate entitled to everything he left you then I will personally give you what is lacking  between the difference in the 250 the SS should pay you as a death benefit, and the 600 someone quoted that the VA would give to help fly him back to the US, I will at my choosing book a travel agent of my choice and pay the addition cost of you and Mr. Hunt's body being taken back to the USA for what most think is a proper burial.

But first know this with the writing of this email tonight I will write both the Secretary of the VA in the USA and the Social Security administration, to try and stop you and your "kept boyfriend" living off the fat of a USA Veteran.

More than 30 some odd years ago plus, I made myself two promises, never to hurt another human being in my life. I also made a promise myself I would never again permit what I see others do in the form of human torture as being sadistic and cruel to another soldier.

Ask any Marine you may not what it means for a Marine to say yes and to say NO, means just that, they both mean exactly what they say. That is a code you live and die by.

Take a risk come visit me over at http://familyearly.com/


-------- Original Message --------
Subject: The Thomas Hunt affair
Date:  Thu, 30 Apr 2009 04:54:26 -0700 (PDT)
From:  Andrew Stratton
To:  Expats-in-Cagayan-de-Oro@yahoogroups.com

Daisy

Love and I just want to say that I have incredible admiration for the work that you and others put in, in trying to help Mr Hunt as best as possible in a terrible situation.  We truly hope that your willingness to help others has not been too dented by the appalling manner in which you were treated at the wake of Mr Hunt. 

If those idiots have the gall to attempt to take some form of legal action against the very angels who did the most amazing work to help Mr Hunt in his "hour" of need,  then we will most definitely contribute to any legal costs that you are forced to incur.  Those people should be ashamed of themselves and surely can only be acting out of stupidity and complete ignorance of the truth.

God Bless you for your heart and selflessness.


-------- Original Message --------
Subject:  Re: Burial of Thomas Hunt
Date:  Thu, 30 Apr 2009 06:48:00 -0700 (PDT)
From:  Greeta Madrigal
To:  Expats-in-Cagayan-de-Oro@yahoogroups.com
 
Hi to all,
 
I am regularly reading the posts.  I am expressing my condolences to the bereaved family of Janelaze,.
 
Now at this point in time, let her family decide for everything... Daisy and her company have been doing all efforts helping them but it turnout to be a mess and they were being insulted? like scammers users???  pigs, etc.... 

All I can say for you Daisy and your members, let them do their own thing now..you have done more than enough and has proven your honesty and entigrity.
 
Best regards to all and Godbless,


-------- Original Message --------
Subject:   Law  Suit
Date:  Thu, 30 Apr 2009 07:59:06 -0700 (PDT)
From:  Danny Barfield
To:  Expats-in-Cagayan-de-Oro@yahoogroups.com

 To All,

     I am astounded at the events surrounding the unfortunate Mr. Hunt and the reaction of his "family" to those who helped in his time of need.  I have some thoughts that i would like to share.

 It should not be a surprise that the family who created his Filipina "wife" (and I use that term with a huge grain of salt to make it palatable) would react this way.  It is my opinion that THEY were making money from Mr. Hunt and want it well hidden.

     Also, as regards this "Albert" charactor; we have all met people like him, "wanna bes" who claim all sorts of credentials, contacts, and experiences. The only thing that surprises me is that he has not claimed, to my knowledge, to have been a Navy SEAL or Army Special Forces. I would not spend any time thinking about him.

     To the Ladies, God bless you for all you have done. There is a special place in heaven for people like you.


-------- Original Message --------
Subject: Re: Urgent Need to Assist the return of Tom Hunt's Remains to Phoenix
Date: Thu, 30 Apr 2009 12:12:01 -0700
From: Tom Landry
To: Elmer Zink

Elmer,

I have read many e-mails this morning talking about how some want their remains attended to at their time of death and how others have previously attended to to their loved ones.

I updated my living will and Last will in Testament about six months ago. In going through that process I identified my desires to keep the costs and efforts of others to a minimum and that it was my desire that rather than spending money on me when I have passed away, that the money go to my wife, children and grandchildren.

After my wife and kids reviewed my intentions they advised me that they preferred to have a Catholic Mass with my body present and a VA Funeral and burial at a VA Cemetery here in California.
My father and mother are also buried in a VA Cemetery here in California and it does mean allot to me and my other family members that we are able to visit the grave site. After thinking of this and speaking to my wife and grown children, I agreed that what happens to my body after my death, should be determined by the loved ones that I leave behind. I changed my documentation to reflect their desires.

I realize that Tom's relatives in Arizona would prefer that Tom's remains be returned to Phoenix and hey have a right to mourn their loss in their own way and they have not been given their opportunity to say their good bye to Tommy Hunt as Janelaze family has in CDO. I believe that it is their wishes that should be honored at this time.

Thanks for this research and information. I just looked at the website and found the costs that you identified.

Estimated Costs of Mortuary Services in the Manila Area

The cost for preparation and burial in Manila - $2,400

The cost for cremation and disposition of ashes in Manila - approximately $1,200

Preparation and air shipment of remains; Manila to U.S. - $4,500

Cremation and air shipment of ashes; Manila to U.S. - $1,500

I have also looked at the website for the Cosmopolitan Mortuary and sent them an e-mail through their website. I have also noted their contact information in both CDO ad Cebu and shall call them this evening. I am not sure if I will be able to contact them tonight because of the holiday.

We still have not heard back from Albert/Janelaze to know if they shall honor the requests of Tom's family or if they shall just proceed with a burial this weekend in CDO. We are again running out of time and need their
response and cooperation.

If they agree to accommodate the wishes of Tom's family, then I suggest that we try to immediately raise funds in the amount of $1,500 from the members of our group and perhaps Tom's family friends and church members in Arizona.

If we think that we can raise the funds of $4,500 then we really need to make that happen ASAP. We will need the inputs from Ted, Tara and Tom's pastor at the Baptist Church in Yuma if they think this is possible.

To make this happen we also need to know from Janelaze/Albert if they intend to pay the hospital bill to obtain the needed Death Certificate. As reflected on the US Embassy website, once the local Death Certificate is received, they shall issue a Consular Report of Death of An American Citizen Abroad.

As I stated last night, I am also checking on the legality of the hospital to refuse to issue a Death Certificate without payment in full or a Promissory note of payment. I shall provide an update as soon as this
information is received.


-------- Original Message --------
Subject:  Re: Urgent Need to Assist the
return of Tom Hunt's Remains to Phoenix
Date:  Thu, 30 Apr 2009 12:25:30 -0700 (PDT)
From:  Albert Dermott
To:  Expats-in-Cagayan-de-Oro@yahoogroups.com

Tom,
 
I believe that Janelaze has already spoken with the hospital about the bill. I know that she needs to fax them something.


-------- Original Message --------
Subject: Re: Urgent Need to Assist the return of Tom Hunt's Remains to Phoenix
Date: Thu, 30 Apr 2009 14:00:10 -0600
From:  William Britt Lewis
To: Expats-in-Cagayan-de-Oro@yahoogroups.com

Everyone,

There is a huge difference between the costs of cremation, bringing the remains back for burial in AZ or interring Mr. Hunt in the Philippines.  Then there is the consideration of Thomas Hunt's religious beliefs
regarding cremation. Some folks do not consider this to be permissable in their faith. Is ths even a viable option?

We really need to hear the inputs of Ted, Tara and the sisters of Thomas. I know it has been said that they wish Mr. Hunt to be reurned to AZ but are they willing to spend any money to make this happen?

As Mike Ferrell said, this is the family's responsibility.  Perhaps others will help out but the input and acceptance of responsibility by Mr. Hunt's blood relatives is noticeably absent in this conversation.
All of us who have posted, with the exception of Janelaze, are not even related to Mr. Hunt.

Without inputs from the blood family, I believe it may be in the best interest of all concerned to follow through with the plans to inter Mr. Hunt at Oro Gardens in CDO.

Again, i'm not trying to offend anyone and I apologize if I have, but these are the realities of the situation. It is imperitive that the blood family of Mr. Hunt step up to the tasks at hand. It is not right that Tom Landry, human extraordinaire, should be carrying the ball for.


-------- Original Message --------
Subject:  Re: Urgent Need to Assist the return of Tom Hunt's Remains to Phoenix
Date:  Thu, 30 Apr 2009 13:06:12 -0700 (PDT)
From:  Albert Dermott
To:  William Britt Lewis

All,
 
Janelaze has said that cremation is an option that Mr. Hunt was alright with. She stated that when they spoke of such things that he was open to either. But from me it is just hearsay so I will have Janelaze tell you in her own words.


-------- Original Message --------
Subject:  Re: Urgent Need to Assist the return of Tom Hunt's Remains to Phoenix
Date:  Thu, 30 Apr 2009 13:40:14 -0700
From:  Tom Landry
To:  William Britt Lewis

William,

You share the same concerns that I did earlier in the week. However, I it was my understanding from Ted, Tara and Tom's sister that they would like to see Tommy's last wishes fulfilled. Last night I received another e-mail from did receive an e-mail from Ted advising that he is reading all of these e-mails and postings, but made a decision to not respond to correspondence where Janelaze and Albert are copied on.  I understand his position and did pass Ted's e-mail to a few people involved. I have eliminated the posting to the CDO Ex-Pats group as well as Janelaze and Albert from this e-mail.

The following are portions of the e-mail that Ted sent to me last night:

As far as Tommy's body, Albert told me he and Janelaze were working to bring the body home.  He asked me if I had a preference of where.  I only suggested that it would be fitting for him to be buried in the VA Cemetary north of Phoenix here since that is where his parents are buried.  I have attempted to talk with those in McCain's office and Kyl's office for assistance.  Again I run into the typical answers that Janelaze as the wife needs to make the requests.  Would I like to see Tommy's final wishes honored, Yes.  Am I going to be able to complete it?  Not on my own.  Do I believe Janelaze wants to honor his final wishes?  Not at all.  She wasn't interested when he was alive, why would she now be interested?

I don't know what else to say at this point.  All of you in the ExPat's have been a bright refreshing light in a dark and dreawy time for our family.  Although I would be pleased to have Tommy's body or ashes buried at the VA Cemetary, I don't believe it is worth the battle, and in knowing my step-father, neither would he.

As I have said before.  I am AMAZED at the out-pouring of love, compassin and interest of all those who are a part of the ExPats.  I personally believer Daisy is a God Send, and Angel of Mercy.  It breaks my heart and frustrates me no end to hear of the treatment of her and the others, who have done so much, by Janelaze's family.  I can't accept Albert's PC apology for Janelaze and her family.  I believe their true spirits are showing in the end.

As the $4,500 may be beyond what we can raise, I would like to think that between those involved from the different PI Groups, Tommy's family and friends in Arizona that we may be able to raise the money for his cremation and returning his ashes to the Arizona for burial in a VA Cemetery. Again this will be contingent upon obtaining a Death Certificate and the expenses of the Funeral Home and possibly the hospital bill. I believe like most others involved that Janelaze should be responsible for the hospital bill and the funeral home expenses (in full or in part) as she proceeded on her own despite Albert telling Ted that they were making arrangements to return Tommy's body to the US. The other key element is if Janelaze and Albert shall cooperate and stop the burial apparently scheduled for this weekend in CDO.

Pastor Glenn Connell:

Please advise if you and your church are willing to contribute to returning Tommy's remains back to Arizona.

To All:

Please advise if you are willing to contribute to returning Tommy's remains back to Arizona.

God bless Tommy's sole and al! those involved in assisting him in his time of need and now at his time of death!


-------- Original Message --------
Subject: Re: Urgent Need to Assist the return of Tom Hunt's Remains to Phoenix
Date: Thu, 30 Apr 2009  14:15:00 -0700
From: Pam Doerr
To: Tom Landry

Mr. Landry
 
Pastor Connell said at this point that we would contribute $100 and then if more is needed we would try to give more.  Let us know how to send funds and for sure what is the latest if returning Tom's remains to Phoenix is going to take place or not.
 
Thanks for all you have done.
 
Pam Doerr


-------- Original Message --------
Subject: Re: Urgent Need to Assist the return of Tom Hunt's Remains to Phoenix
Date: Thu, 30 Apr 2009 18:56:16 -0700
From: Tom Landry
To: Pam Doerr

Pam:

Thanks much for the reply and the offer to donate $100.00. We are all awaiting a response from Janelaze to find out if she will go through with the burial in CDO or allow Tommy's remains to be returned to Arizona. If she does not allow this then I don't see a need for any further donations.  I hope that we will know this answer tonight.  I shall keep you posted.


 -------- Original Message --------
Subject: Re: Urgent Need to Assist the
return of Tom Hunt's Remains to Phoenix
Date:  Thu, 30 Apr 2009 19:08:43 -0700
From:  Tom Landry
To:  Expats-in-Cagayan-de-Oro@yahoogroups.com
 
Albert:

Thanks for the info!

Janelaze:

Please immediately advise all of us what your intentions are in regards to burring Tommy this weekend in CDO or if you shall accommodate the desire of his family and return Tommy's remains to Arizona. You have not advised Tommy's other family members or anyone who has been assisting Tommy as to what your intentions may be. Although it has been made very clear from your family in CDO that Tommy shall be buried this weekend in CDO.  Please advise.


-------- Original Message --------
Subject:  Re: Burial of Thomas Hunt
Date:  Thu, 30 Apr 2009 20:16:19 -0700 (PDT)
From:  Kevin Lynch
To:  Expats-in-Cagayan-de-Oro@yahoogroups.com
 
As I recall from prior posts when Tom Hunt was still alive and coherent enough to talk, he expressed to those that were there, that he wanted to go home.

That was his wish and Daisy made a promise to do whatever she could to get him there.  I am aware of the financial burdens being a hindrance in that happening but it seems as though Tom Landry and the ladies charity have figured a way to make it work.

I'm sorry but I still am skeptical of the intentions of his wife's family and wife and Albert as well.  Something just doesn't seem right.  Albert, that is the husband of Janelaze and should be referred to as such. Not as Mr. Thomas Hunt as you and she continue to call him. 

Why didn't you tell her to go to her dying husbands side when she could.  Why was he left alone in the hospital for so long? The nurses and doctors asked for someone to come visit him to brighten his spirits.  It seems as though all this caring is coming out after the fact that he is not in the way.

But that is just my opinion and doesn't mean anything to anyone but myself.  I will say that the behavior of Janelaze and yourself throughout this ordeal has been shameful.  Give Thomas Hunt his wish and get him home to be beside his true loved ones.


-------- Original Message --------
Subject:  Re: Urgent Need to Assist the return of Tom Hunt's Remains to Phoenix
Date: Thu, 30 Apr 2009 23:06:59 -0500
From: Elmer Zink
To:  Albert Dermott, Janelaze Songcuya

Albert & Janelaze,

I find it hard to believe that  Thomas Hunt would have been okay with cremation.

With being Baptist and a very devout Christian and his belief in the Resurrection, I doubt that cremation was any part of his vocabulary.

Cremation may be a financial and logistical convenience but not  something he in his Christian faith would have wanted.  I am sure that  Pastor Connell, and Pam & Roger Doerr could verify that fact.


-------- Original Message --------
Subject:  Re: Burial of Thomas Hunt
Date: Thu, 30 Apr 2009 23:29:53 -0500
From: Elmer Zink
To: Expats-in-Cagayan-de-Oro@yahoogroups.com

Quoting Kevin Lynch mailto:kevin_lynch1950@yahoo.com:

as I recall from prior posts when Tom Hunt was still alive and  coherent enough to talk, he expressed to those that were there, that  he wanted to go home. That was his wish and Daisy made a promise to  do whatever she could to get him there.

Kevin,

That is so very true.

I updated the Thomas Hunt web pages today to include the first few weeks of this unfortunate saga.  The Expats in Cagayan de Oro became involved back on March 6, 2009, when the doctor at the hospital talked to Scotty about Mr. Hunt.

I was in tears as I read those March posts as I copied and pasted them to the web page. I could just picture this kind, sweet, quiet, lonely, depressed and sick man just laying there pleasing with those sad sweet eyes to go home.

If anyone has missed the beginning of our involvement in trying to save Tommmy's life and return him to Yuma, just go to the March 6th page of the website and begin reading.  If you have a heart and soul, you will be moved to tears.... or at least blurry eyes.

But, again.. it is so very true.  There is no doubt that Mr. Hunt wanted so very badly to go home to the United States.  He was unable to make it while he still breathed.  But, I am for doing everything possible to bring his body back to Phoenix to be buried in the Veteran's Memorial Cemetery.

Janelaze ... come on!  Get off your duff, and do something for Tom for once!  Call your Mother and Gloria, and Cosmopolitan Funeral Home and tell them that Tom will be buried in the United States, and to begin preparing the body for shipment to the Phoenix, Arizona.

The March 6th page..  http://zinkhome.net/tomhunt/thpg1.html


-------- Original Message --------
Subject: Return of Tom Hunt's Remains to Phoenix
Date: Thu, 30 Apr 2009 23:07:05 -0600
From: William Britt Lewis
To: Tom Landry, Tom

Thanks for your email. I am glad that Ted is still emailing you. But it still begs the question of funding.

The family wanting Mr. Hunt returned is noted, but no financial committment seems to be forthcoming from them. Due to the lawsuit threat against Daisy, I believe it will be difficult to raise the $1,500+ for the return of his cremated remains unless the AZ Hunt family is a contributor. I agree with CT that it appears that cremation is the only financially viable way to return Mr. Hunt to be buried in a VA cemetary.

Elmer may be correct that cremation might not be acceptable, that is why I posed the question. If that is the case, our options are even more limited.


-------- Original Message --------
Subject:  Re: Urgent Need to Assist the return of Tom Hunt's Remains to Phoenix
Date:  Fri, 1 May 2009  02:28:15 -0400 (EDT)
From:  Laze Songcuya <lacochi2027@yahoo.com>
To:  Tom Landry,  Ted Hammon,Ted, Tom and anyone else it may concern,
 
This email contains foul language from Albert and disrepects the Honorable name of Thomas Hunt. To read the contents of this email go to the Janelaze and Albert Page, at http://zinkhome.net/janelaze.html


-------- Original Message --------
Subject: Re: Return of Tom Hunt's Remains to Phoenix
Date: Thu, 30 Apr 2009 23:39:15 -0700
From: Tom Landry
To: William Britt Lewis

William:

I understand what you are saying. I was on the phone with Janelaze when I first received this e-mail.
 
Apparently there is an issue with the family of Janelaze now upset with her because she apologized to Daisy and the other ladies for their unnecessary comments. Apparently this Aunt who did nothing to assist Tom Hunt when he was alive, now feels that she has the right to make decisions about his funeral and burial.Apparently the Aunt has incurred a cost of $2,000 dollars for the funeral, casket and grave site. And does not have any money to pay for this. Janelaze advised that she has collected $800.00 at this point. So
now there is an issue with the expenses incurred for the funeral home in addition to the hospital costs. In regards to the hospital bill, Janelaze said that she will provide the hospital with a Promissory Note to repay the hospital to obtain the Death Certificate.

Janelaze has advised me on the phone tonight that she is willing to give Ted Power of Attorney and she shall respect the wishes of Ted and Tom's family and allow Tom's remains to be returned to Arizona.

I also called Ted after speaking to Janelaze and Ted is going to provideJanelaze with a Power of Attorney so that she can sign this and have itnotarized.

I told both of them that I am willing to go to CDO and do whatever is necessary to return Tom in a casket if we are able to raise enough money or I shall take his body to Cebu for cremation and then take the an Urn with Tom's remains or Casket to Phoenix. They both said that they would appreciate this effort. I shall now try to follow-up on the calls that I made last night and provide and update in the morning.


-------- Original Message --------
Subject:  Re: Urgent Need to Assist the
return of Tom Hunt's Remains to Phoenix
Date:  Thu, 30 Apr 2009 23:48:12 -0700
From:  Tom Landry
To:  Janelaze Songcuya

Albert:

Wow, how fast things change. If you did not get involved for the right reasons, then you should not have gotten involved. The right reasons were to assist a fellow Christian and Vet in his time of need and now to return this man home to Phoenix.

It was about one hour ago that I spoke with Janelaze and she said that she agreed to follow the wishes of Ted and Tom's other family members to return his remains to Phoenix. I told her that I would call Ted and did just that. Ted is going to provide her with a Power of Attorney for her to sign and have notarized and returned to Ted. Once that happens that neither you or Janelaze will have to do anything at all in regards to Tom Hunt. I am now in the process of following up on efforts to obtain true costs to return Tom in a casket or have him cremated and have his remains returned.

I shall continue my efforts in hope that you shall realize that this is the right and honorable thing to do.


-------- Original Message --------
Subject:  Re: [Expats-in-Cagayan-de-Oro] Re: Urgent Need to Assist the
return of Tom Hunt's Remains to Phoenix
Date:  Fri, 1 May 2009 00:07:14 -0700 (PDT)
From:  Laze Songcuya
To:  Expats-in-Cagayan-de-Oro@yahoogroups.com, William Britt Lewis, Tom Landry

Tom,
 
That's right how fast things change!
 
I read the emails that you and others have on zinkhome.net. So do not act like this is coming out of thin air.

Albert Dermott


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Contact People 

Daisy and Alan Cline, friends of Mr. Hunt, and the contact person in Cagayan de Oro City, Philippines; cell phone: 920-438-8883 & 922-677-8169; email: daisycline@gmail.com ; Allan(Lee) Cline  email: clinealan44@gmail.com

Ted Hammon,  602-380-1759,  Mr. Hunt's stepson in  Phoenix;  email: td.hammon@cox.net

Tom Landry,  friend of Mr. Hunt, who lives in California;  Home: 949-559-6096  Mobile: 949-293-9675
email:  tomlandry@sbcglobal.net

Mike Belter,    Mike is another friend, who lives in Cagayan de Oro; Mike's cell phone: 927-930-7306    email: mikebelter@yahoo.com

Elmer Zink,    Compiler of this webpage. And deeply concerned for Mr. Hunt's health and well-being.  email: elmer@zinkhome.net

Note:
1.)  To phone the Philippines 011-63 has to be dialed in front of the 10 digit cell phone number (011-63-xxx-xxx-xxxx).

2.)  The Philippines is 15 hours ahead of US Pacific Time & 12 hours ahead of US Eastern time.



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